Your husband isn't right…but he isn't wrong either…. Swinging entails multiple sexual partners….What you and your buddy have done is pair off together separate from the swinging group become a monogamous unit within the swinging party… Further, you've “clicked” with him and it seems you two have developed an emotional connection in addition to the sex. So what you are doing isn't actually swinging, it's having a relationship with another guy in the context of a swinging party. So on that front your husband is right.
But here's where he's also wrong….You two never discussed what was expected. And it was all new to you. So you had no idea what you were doing was in anyway inappropriate. He can't just drop you into that situation with zero information and expect you to find your way. Thus he can't be upset at the situation that developed. Only thing he can do is discuss it with you and see where it goes from there. Swinging isn't for everyone. Good luck
This is a big sign of depression, not to alarm you but some people who are very depressed but not suicidal want to just leave where no-one knows them, or for the world & everything to just disappear.
She sounds isolated if she's putting this on you instead of her friends but you can't solve her problems & adopting her children would not solve her underlying mental health problems.
Tell your sister that you are concerned, maybe find information live! of symtoms of depression, highlight the ones you notice fit her & suggest she has a problem & should get help.
Although it must be very stressful for you please try to be empathetic & let her know life does not have to be this difficult & she can find life less stressful, by getting treatment for her mental health problem.
Most likely, he still have feelings for you. If he broke up with you out of need rather than lack of love, it's very easy for feelings to go back to the surface when you forget all the reasons that caused the break up in the first place.
First of all, never marry someone who is only “putting up with marrying you.” That causes resentment on both sides because they feel trapped, and you go through what should be a joyful process and they break your heart every step of the way by making it clear they do not give a shit about the wedding or marrying you. If you marry him, based on this set of circumstances, you will both be miserable.
What you need to do is decide how important marriage is to you, and make a decision to leave or stay based on that. And don't make a knee-jerk “it's a piece of paper” decision here, because it is a piece of paper which protects you, give you certain legal rights, and protects the property you have built a joint life with if your partner passes, in a way that a will can't (i.e. assuming qualified accounts, being able to assume ownership of their accounts and real property without paying inheritance tax, etc.)
I had an ex like this. He could be ridiculous and very unreasonable but the minute I reacted and stood up for myself HIS feelings were hurt. I was always the bad person, he never took accountability for his actions.
OP this sounds exactly like your bf. He SHOULD HAVE APOLOGISED AND HELPED YOU LOOK FOR YOUR CAT.
That's normal relationship trade off stuff although she shouldn't be rude about asking him to wear something else. This is not some unacceptable behaviour
If all it took to be with someone forever is that they are a good person I would have married my first girlfriend. My first girlfriend obviously thinks her wife is much more her speed.
Ok I’m trying to be funny but the truth is relationships need more than kindness and good intentions. Unfortunately they need more than love.
I still gag when I go down on men or women its my own thing nothing wrong with them and I like pleasuring them. But it's my own issue I very much doubt you have anything wrong he just needs to get desensitized and or figure out a way past it. For me I started eating a mint before of something like that, added some flavoring deff shower me and my partner will wipe ourselfs a little before with a pH safe wipe and or washcloth for sweat,piss and anything extra but not too much so we don't destroy our natural biome.
If that was my bf I would say tf no you aren’t. He will share no bed room with no girl or it’s over. This isn’t such a factor if trust rather of respect. If she does this she does not respect you
This is important to Eastern European people especially, I believe. Your girlfriend is polish and she would’ve had a right to be upset… IF she communicated that this was something that was important to her, which she didn’t.
This is important to Eastern European people especially, I believe. Your girlfriend is polish and she would’ve had a right to be upset… IF she communicated that this was something that was important to her, which she didn’t.
I've been overpaying mine (automatic live! payment) so I have a credit of over $500. Also I barely bring home $30,000 a year, drive a used car and own a house I bought for cash (not the best house but livable).
Your girlfriend needs some financial literacy classes.
Also, 24 is EXTREMELY young. It’s possible at 24 you have never seen death up close before. Most 24 year olds are not ready for marriage or to handle health crises in their own. At 24, when I had something as relatively minor as a gallbladder surgery, I immediately relied on my parents.
Being told at 24 that you are going to marry to someone who maybe doesn’t have 24 years left and much of it will be spent suffering, while you have to be their caretaker WHILE your own parents are withdrawing their support from you… that is a lot to handle.
Peole in this thread, including OP to an extent, are being cruel to the gf.
TBH, at the moment, your focus should be figuring your issues out. Why did you blow yourself up? Is this a long-standing pattern? Is it situational? Is this the behavior you saw as a child? Etc. To stop shooting yourself in the foot, you have to get your finger off the trigger.
If you get yourself lined out and SHOW her improved behavior, she may give you a chance to explain. Apologies without sustained change are meaningless. She is under no obligation to talk to you, much less take you back, JSYK.
Whether your ex gives you the time of day or not, you can get into a better headspace for the rest of your life. Do yourself a favor and make the most of this situation that your created for yourself.
Ahhh nah I don't think so, j mean I'd say try not to text or call too much, and just give some time to redirect on somewhere else, and give a bit of time and let him initiate it first yk.
I'm in the banking industry wires are typically sent out on the hour and received on the hour. So max time it would take him assuming they sent it that day would be 3 hours unless they sent it after business hours then it would come in first thing in the morning. If he can't wait that long for $1,500 he has big problems.
There isnt wrong with going to a pub and having a pint (though if you cant not go to the pub and have a pint then perhaps you have an alcohol problem). Men go to pubs all the time, why would it be any different for a female?
Ok onto the next topic, you both have agreed to save money but you are out getting a drink every day. Nothing wrong with some you time, but you need to be respectful of eachother.
You're both overwhelmed. We weren't designed to work 40 hours and go to school and take care of a home, etc. Hire someone to clean the house and try to decompress a little. It's easier to go through all of this shit on your own in your 20s but you're both trying to compromise and figure out while it just started with too much stuff going on.
Not to be melodramatic, but I think you should break up with him. His behavior is immature and unattractive. If I hurt my husband during sex, I'd be apologetic and embarrassed, not shut him out. He's acting like a man child.
He's either an idiot or he doesn't give a fuck about you. Unless he does a 180, which is unlikely, this relationship will not get better. I lived with someone like this and it never got better, he just didn't care enough about me to change or be considerate, so I left him and found someone who does care, who is considerate and it was like night and day.
Don't on-line with someone who constantly disrespects you, it will ruin your mental health
I was hesitant to commit because she was terrible financially. After her being so important to me I was willing to overlook that aspect. We had a talk and agreed that I was sort out finances and she would just live! off a preset budget. Shortly after her job got slow and she didn’t have work. I asked her to go out less and spend less and she was unable to. This left me feeling unloved and lonely.
I have asked her what she needs to feel the spark again and she is unable to put into words what it is. I have tried suggesting weekly date night, compliment her often, and tried to schedule intimacy and alone time together to not much avail. I am hoping to see a therapist together and work on her issues but she feels like we have the roommate convo too many times already.
You asked for advice, and I gave you the most obvious advice. If you only want people to tell you what you want to hear, you shouldn't be posting asking for advice.
Trust your gut. If it's sounds shady, then it probably is. The ones telling you your insecure are full of shit and they know it. It's Reddit so of course they can tell you they would be trusting knowing full well that's a flat-out lie.
He puts his hand on your knee for 20-30 seconds??!??!??? That’s like a really long time!!!! Please make it very clear to him that he needs to keep his hands and weird ass comments to himself
A relationship where arguments are expected is not a good relationship. I've been with my bf over a year and a half and we've never had any sort of argument. We've had moments where we get snippy but we recognize them and apologize shortly after.
I've never had lingering bad feelings about him or being together.
Only you can decide what to do but I wouldn't go through with it and I'd start making all the plans I need to walk away. This isn't the life you want so get out before he “accidentally” gets you pregnant and you feel more trapped.
The update makes this worse. OPs husband needs therapy because finding fulfillment in someone else's body, that they have agency over, is a setup for failure. You need to find other ways to feel connected. I also find it odd that you didn't mention how often you're currently having sex. IMO, you should probably separate unless hubby is willing to address this with therapy.
My guy, as a 48yo womam I will tell you the same thing I would tell a girlfriend or my daughter if she described this relationship to me.
Run. Get her out of your house. This is not the relationship for you. She is either a narcissistic predator, emotionally immature and/or very insecure and not ready for a relationship. That is not something you can fix. It will not change except to get worse. Don't fall into the sunk cost fallacy. You are far too young and you deserve a relationship with an emotionally healthy person.
Get some exercise; focus on the things you say you're not motivated to do (job, business, channel). Prepare yourself for the opportunities that await. The best revenge is to become the best version of yourself.
I’ve tried this scenario and got the response “I’m not giving him away I will do better” and it’s still happening
For me, its about respect. A conversation should move fluidly and smoothly…thats a good sign for me. Hope that helps!
Anybody else get bummed out at how often husbands suggest fucking other people to “spice up the relationship?”
Your husband isn't right…but he isn't wrong either…. Swinging entails multiple sexual partners….What you and your buddy have done is pair off together separate from the swinging group become a monogamous unit within the swinging party… Further, you've “clicked” with him and it seems you two have developed an emotional connection in addition to the sex. So what you are doing isn't actually swinging, it's having a relationship with another guy in the context of a swinging party. So on that front your husband is right.
But here's where he's also wrong….You two never discussed what was expected. And it was all new to you. So you had no idea what you were doing was in anyway inappropriate. He can't just drop you into that situation with zero information and expect you to find your way. Thus he can't be upset at the situation that developed. Only thing he can do is discuss it with you and see where it goes from there. Swinging isn't for everyone. Good luck
I guess we're both assuming. I know OP never once wrote down that he's concerned about not having an inheritance from his side though.
See you get it. I'm just seeing what other peoples thoughts on it all are.
That is terrible to hear fam and I'm sorry you two are experiencing that.
However, this is a great opportunity for you both to have yourselves a merry Covid Christmas.
Organise a nice lil feast, set yourself up for some Christmas movies, play some games, read some books and get cosy under the aircon for a few days.
Bonus points if you can somehow make gingerbread biscuits together.
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This is a big sign of depression, not to alarm you but some people who are very depressed but not suicidal want to just leave where no-one knows them, or for the world & everything to just disappear.
She sounds isolated if she's putting this on you instead of her friends but you can't solve her problems & adopting her children would not solve her underlying mental health problems.
Tell your sister that you are concerned, maybe find information live! of symtoms of depression, highlight the ones you notice fit her & suggest she has a problem & should get help.
Although it must be very stressful for you please try to be empathetic & let her know life does not have to be this difficult & she can find life less stressful, by getting treatment for her mental health problem.
Your girlfriend is an alcoholic. She needs to get treatment for her problem. You should give her an ultimatum.
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Most likely, he still have feelings for you. If he broke up with you out of need rather than lack of love, it's very easy for feelings to go back to the surface when you forget all the reasons that caused the break up in the first place.
First of all, never marry someone who is only “putting up with marrying you.” That causes resentment on both sides because they feel trapped, and you go through what should be a joyful process and they break your heart every step of the way by making it clear they do not give a shit about the wedding or marrying you. If you marry him, based on this set of circumstances, you will both be miserable.
What you need to do is decide how important marriage is to you, and make a decision to leave or stay based on that. And don't make a knee-jerk “it's a piece of paper” decision here, because it is a piece of paper which protects you, give you certain legal rights, and protects the property you have built a joint life with if your partner passes, in a way that a will can't (i.e. assuming qualified accounts, being able to assume ownership of their accounts and real property without paying inheritance tax, etc.)
nope. time for some accountability. she cheated. lied, made fun of him behind his back, kept lying, manipulated him, gaslighted him.
for all intents and purposes she abused that man.
I don’t understand…do you want to be with him? Or are you looking for an excuse to leave? I’m legitimately confused. Maybe it’s me.
Are you SURE she's 21 and not 12?! I would just have to tell her she's acting like a complete idiot and that she needs to grow up!
I was going to say he sounds quite narcissistic.
I had an ex like this. He could be ridiculous and very unreasonable but the minute I reacted and stood up for myself HIS feelings were hurt. I was always the bad person, he never took accountability for his actions.
OP this sounds exactly like your bf. He SHOULD HAVE APOLOGISED AND HELPED YOU LOOK FOR YOUR CAT.
People like this dont change.
You are being emotionally abused. You are in an abusive relationship. Don't tolerate abuse.
Why does it matter after being together four years?
This has nothing to do with the hair and everything to do with your partner's poor hygiene habits.
That's normal relationship trade off stuff although she shouldn't be rude about asking him to wear something else. This is not some unacceptable behaviour
This has nothing to do with the hair and everything to do with your partner's poor hygiene habits.
That’s a really good idea. I honestly didn’t even consider that, I have a Best Buy and apples store 45 min away
If you stay with him, be prepared to accept that he will never change. If you have a kid with him, it will be your second kid cos he is your first.
If she, her kid and her mother ever move in with you…
Something tells me her job would go bye-bye if that were to happen.
If all it took to be with someone forever is that they are a good person I would have married my first girlfriend. My first girlfriend obviously thinks her wife is much more her speed.
Ok I’m trying to be funny but the truth is relationships need more than kindness and good intentions. Unfortunately they need more than love.
I still gag when I go down on men or women its my own thing nothing wrong with them and I like pleasuring them. But it's my own issue I very much doubt you have anything wrong he just needs to get desensitized and or figure out a way past it. For me I started eating a mint before of something like that, added some flavoring deff shower me and my partner will wipe ourselfs a little before with a pH safe wipe and or washcloth for sweat,piss and anything extra but not too much so we don't destroy our natural biome.
If that was my bf I would say tf no you aren’t. He will share no bed room with no girl or it’s over. This isn’t such a factor if trust rather of respect. If she does this she does not respect you
This is important to Eastern European people especially, I believe. Your girlfriend is polish and she would’ve had a right to be upset… IF she communicated that this was something that was important to her, which she didn’t.
This is important to Eastern European people especially, I believe. Your girlfriend is polish and she would’ve had a right to be upset… IF she communicated that this was something that was important to her, which she didn’t.
I've been overpaying mine (automatic live! payment) so I have a credit of over $500. Also I barely bring home $30,000 a year, drive a used car and own a house I bought for cash (not the best house but livable).
Your girlfriend needs some financial literacy classes.
So grow a backbone and break up already. They are laughing at you
I understand meds can be tired but what about my meds not just in his terms…
Also, 24 is EXTREMELY young. It’s possible at 24 you have never seen death up close before. Most 24 year olds are not ready for marriage or to handle health crises in their own. At 24, when I had something as relatively minor as a gallbladder surgery, I immediately relied on my parents.
Being told at 24 that you are going to marry to someone who maybe doesn’t have 24 years left and much of it will be spent suffering, while you have to be their caretaker WHILE your own parents are withdrawing their support from you… that is a lot to handle.
Peole in this thread, including OP to an extent, are being cruel to the gf.
If I were your boyfriend, I’d tell my family that until they can be respectful of my partner, I am going no contact.
For me, the price of admission for people—including family—is that they treat my partner and myself and my dog respectfully.
Exactly and now his brain can’t handle that for some reason? He’s gonna have a tough life.
TBH, at the moment, your focus should be figuring your issues out. Why did you blow yourself up? Is this a long-standing pattern? Is it situational? Is this the behavior you saw as a child? Etc. To stop shooting yourself in the foot, you have to get your finger off the trigger.
If you get yourself lined out and SHOW her improved behavior, she may give you a chance to explain. Apologies without sustained change are meaningless. She is under no obligation to talk to you, much less take you back, JSYK.
Whether your ex gives you the time of day or not, you can get into a better headspace for the rest of your life. Do yourself a favor and make the most of this situation that your created for yourself.
So, maybe, 4/10?
I think it done this via text
I fail to see how this would be inaprropiate
Yeah, give yourself some space to process it and heal. Happy thoughts and best of luck
Yes, thank you ?
Exactly this
If the bio dad gets a DNA test, that's all it will take.
He has parental rights regardless of her not wanting him to.
I've heard this exact thing said unironically in multiple different discussions.
It's stupid and unfortunate, but it's a real thing that is being argued.
Time to end it.
Ahhh nah I don't think so, j mean I'd say try not to text or call too much, and just give some time to redirect on somewhere else, and give a bit of time and let him initiate it first yk.
Please stop sharing your location with anyone. No one should have that info.
Your friend is not your friend. She is a self-centered ass who had to make everything about herself. Block her permanently.
How’s is his mental health?
I'm in the banking industry wires are typically sent out on the hour and received on the hour. So max time it would take him assuming they sent it that day would be 3 hours unless they sent it after business hours then it would come in first thing in the morning. If he can't wait that long for $1,500 he has big problems.
I don't think it was disrespectful. If you don't want other guys showing her attention, go to the bar with her!
Don't tell her “go without me, have fun and be safe” and then get upset that she danced.
There isnt wrong with going to a pub and having a pint (though if you cant not go to the pub and have a pint then perhaps you have an alcohol problem). Men go to pubs all the time, why would it be any different for a female?
Ok onto the next topic, you both have agreed to save money but you are out getting a drink every day. Nothing wrong with some you time, but you need to be respectful of eachother.
You're both overwhelmed. We weren't designed to work 40 hours and go to school and take care of a home, etc. Hire someone to clean the house and try to decompress a little. It's easier to go through all of this shit on your own in your 20s but you're both trying to compromise and figure out while it just started with too much stuff going on.
Not to be melodramatic, but I think you should break up with him. His behavior is immature and unattractive. If I hurt my husband during sex, I'd be apologetic and embarrassed, not shut him out. He's acting like a man child.
He's either an idiot or he doesn't give a fuck about you. Unless he does a 180, which is unlikely, this relationship will not get better. I lived with someone like this and it never got better, he just didn't care enough about me to change or be considerate, so I left him and found someone who does care, who is considerate and it was like night and day.
Don't on-line with someone who constantly disrespects you, it will ruin your mental health
so could he be with me just for my looks or money?
Yes.
Do I need a prenup?
Absolutely yes.
Should I worry he will trade me in for a hotter younger model after I have kids?
Yes.
I was hesitant to commit because she was terrible financially. After her being so important to me I was willing to overlook that aspect. We had a talk and agreed that I was sort out finances and she would just live! off a preset budget. Shortly after her job got slow and she didn’t have work. I asked her to go out less and spend less and she was unable to. This left me feeling unloved and lonely.
I have asked her what she needs to feel the spark again and she is unable to put into words what it is. I have tried suggesting weekly date night, compliment her often, and tried to schedule intimacy and alone time together to not much avail. I am hoping to see a therapist together and work on her issues but she feels like we have the roommate convo too many times already.
You asked for advice, and I gave you the most obvious advice. If you only want people to tell you what you want to hear, you shouldn't be posting asking for advice.
Trust your gut. If it's sounds shady, then it probably is. The ones telling you your insecure are full of shit and they know it. It's Reddit so of course they can tell you they would be trusting knowing full well that's a flat-out lie.
He puts his hand on your knee for 20-30 seconds??!??!??? That’s like a really long time!!!! Please make it very clear to him that he needs to keep his hands and weird ass comments to himself
A relationship where arguments are expected is not a good relationship. I've been with my bf over a year and a half and we've never had any sort of argument. We've had moments where we get snippy but we recognize them and apologize shortly after.
I've never had lingering bad feelings about him or being together.
Only you can decide what to do but I wouldn't go through with it and I'd start making all the plans I need to walk away. This isn't the life you want so get out before he “accidentally” gets you pregnant and you feel more trapped.
Gotta agree.
The update makes this worse. OPs husband needs therapy because finding fulfillment in someone else's body, that they have agency over, is a setup for failure. You need to find other ways to feel connected. I also find it odd that you didn't mention how often you're currently having sex. IMO, you should probably separate unless hubby is willing to address this with therapy.
My guy, as a 48yo womam I will tell you the same thing I would tell a girlfriend or my daughter if she described this relationship to me.
Run. Get her out of your house. This is not the relationship for you. She is either a narcissistic predator, emotionally immature and/or very insecure and not ready for a relationship. That is not something you can fix. It will not change except to get worse. Don't fall into the sunk cost fallacy. You are far too young and you deserve a relationship with an emotionally healthy person.
Better years are ahead.
She's got zero integrity, and she had you fooled.
Get some exercise; focus on the things you say you're not motivated to do (job, business, channel). Prepare yourself for the opportunities that await. The best revenge is to become the best version of yourself.
Huge ?