Leave to get counseling. She sees you as a sperm donor with an ultimatum. If you had a second child now, there's so much that would have to change, including housing. And if you have a second kid with her, you're gonna end up resenting her because she forced another child into your lives.
This adds some important context, and its no wonder that you're struggling with how to approach the situation. Its a lose-lose situation for you, and that sucks. You're still in the wrong though — and looking at this as some sort of debate is not going to help.
Your partner (original OP) repressed his memories and feelings for a long time, and now hes attempting to actually move on and heal from his childhood. That means going no contact with his abuser. OPs mistake was being wishy-washy about allowing you and the children to maintain a relationship with that same abuser. That was NEVER going to work out.
Again, its an unfortunate situation and you aren't the “bad guy” in this scenario. It may be helpful for you to join your partner in his therapy or couples counseling to better understand what hes going through and improve your communication. He may never forgive his mother. Some things can't be forgiven. There is a risk that she will abuse the children, and thats not at all okay either.
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You at a very minimum should to a consultation with an attorney. Don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Additionally, just because she's wealthy doesn't mean she wouldn't still want whatever you may have or make the process purposely contentious and try to intentionally screw you over. For example, if you're in a community property state, she may be entitled to any pension accounts or retirement funds you set up for yourself during your marriage. It is always always always a good idea to know your rights. At the end of the day, this is the dissolution of a legal contract and having expert legal advice can only be to your advantage.
It sounds like the bigger issue is that your husband is poly and you are mono. It's going to continue making you both miserable to be in this relationship – either he will deny himself to keep you happy, or you will deny yourself to make him happy. If you want to stay married, do you think you can survive an unconventional relationship as platonic spouses?
My love, know that I am coming from a place of empathy here:
You need to leave.
This man sees you as a vessel for his wants, not as an equal partner.
He is blaming you for not wanting to go through a major medical event again and again, while he puts more pressure on you, until you have a child he can claim as his.
None of this is healthy.
He blamed you for your miscarriage. That is fucking abhorrent and beyond the pale.
This man does not view you as his partner, as his lover or as his equal.
If you were to have a child with him, is this the kind of relationship you want your child to see as acceptable?
You cannot keep putting your body on the line, you cannot keep disregarding your own needs, you need to leave this man.
I realise it may sound like I'm catastrophising but I'm not.
We've seen this play out time and time again on this sub, in media, among friends and loved ones. His behaviour will not change. He focuses only on what he wants and not on what you need.
This is not a solid foundation for any sort of relationship. Least of all one where you bring a child into it.
I agree with most everything except for writing a note about leaving the state with another man. If he's like many abusive partners, he could be excessively jealous and reading that portion could cause him to feel like he's lost even more control over her, and to escalate
I can't help but think that you two simply aren't compatible. You are obviously not comfortable with her and Seans relationship, and to ask someone to drop a friendship of 10 years for you is simply unreasonable. Don't do that, that would be manipulative and mean.
Just be straight up and tell her what you think is inappropriate with her and Seans relationship, but don't expect her to end a friendship of 10 years for a relationship of 9 months…
Just know that people spend YEARS, miserable together, before realizing their incompatible and eventually ending it. Be glad you know yourself enough to make decisions based on your own feelings, which should never be ignored.
You honestly sound extremely childish “like why can’t you get over it?” When you even thought that he could be cheating and you immediately threw yourself at someone. Who do you think you are to think that he has to love you and support you when you broke him. He’s only there because he doesn’t wanna deal with court and custody battles over his daughter that’s about it. You are probably dead to him at this point.
You absolutely MUST NOT be alone with this woman. You clearly cannot be trusted in this situation and the fact that you have planned how to cheat on your poor wife is shocking.
You need to rethink your relationship if you find it so easy to consider cheating.
Don’t accept this type of behaviour. He isn’t treating you right. You deserve to feel loved, appreciated and respected. You will find that but not with this guy. Move on, and don’t settle for less ❤️
The usual way to start a conversation is to start it. Maybe you could ask him for a coffee. Or if you think a more bold approach would be better, ask him out for lunch or dinner. What you can't do is nothing. Hoping that someone else will take the initiative on your feelings is impossible. IMO you should do what makes you happy. Best wishes.
Op said she’d been saving for 5 years….but it doesn’t sound like she’s chipping in since her concern is using the whole $300,000. Unless she may have meant her share and his plus his brothers house. My advise would be to not borrow twice buying a home, also to buy a house based on one income, not two. Because jobs can be shaky, especially in todays world. Unless you are planning on a cash purchase of a house.
If you're in a relationship, ask her. Many women would like a story written directly about them if it was from their SO, but some wouldn't. Some might prefer a story written for their tastes but not about them specifically. I don't think very many would like such a story written by someone who isn't their SO, although there are of course exceptions.
You need therapy because you aren't helping your kid with the way you refer to him.
Leave to get counseling. She sees you as a sperm donor with an ultimatum. If you had a second child now, there's so much that would have to change, including housing. And if you have a second kid with her, you're gonna end up resenting her because she forced another child into your lives.
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This adds some important context, and its no wonder that you're struggling with how to approach the situation. Its a lose-lose situation for you, and that sucks. You're still in the wrong though — and looking at this as some sort of debate is not going to help.
Your partner (original OP) repressed his memories and feelings for a long time, and now hes attempting to actually move on and heal from his childhood. That means going no contact with his abuser. OPs mistake was being wishy-washy about allowing you and the children to maintain a relationship with that same abuser. That was NEVER going to work out.
Again, its an unfortunate situation and you aren't the “bad guy” in this scenario. It may be helpful for you to join your partner in his therapy or couples counseling to better understand what hes going through and improve your communication. He may never forgive his mother. Some things can't be forgiven. There is a risk that she will abuse the children, and thats not at all okay either.
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You're a terrible terrible person. That poor kid…
You at a very minimum should to a consultation with an attorney. Don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Additionally, just because she's wealthy doesn't mean she wouldn't still want whatever you may have or make the process purposely contentious and try to intentionally screw you over. For example, if you're in a community property state, she may be entitled to any pension accounts or retirement funds you set up for yourself during your marriage. It is always always always a good idea to know your rights. At the end of the day, this is the dissolution of a legal contract and having expert legal advice can only be to your advantage.
It sounds like the bigger issue is that your husband is poly and you are mono. It's going to continue making you both miserable to be in this relationship – either he will deny himself to keep you happy, or you will deny yourself to make him happy. If you want to stay married, do you think you can survive an unconventional relationship as platonic spouses?
My love, know that I am coming from a place of empathy here:
You need to leave.
This man sees you as a vessel for his wants, not as an equal partner.
He is blaming you for not wanting to go through a major medical event again and again, while he puts more pressure on you, until you have a child he can claim as his.
None of this is healthy.
He blamed you for your miscarriage. That is fucking abhorrent and beyond the pale.
This man does not view you as his partner, as his lover or as his equal.
If you were to have a child with him, is this the kind of relationship you want your child to see as acceptable?
You cannot keep putting your body on the line, you cannot keep disregarding your own needs, you need to leave this man.
I realise it may sound like I'm catastrophising but I'm not.
We've seen this play out time and time again on this sub, in media, among friends and loved ones. His behaviour will not change. He focuses only on what he wants and not on what you need.
This is not a solid foundation for any sort of relationship. Least of all one where you bring a child into it.
I beg of you, my angel, to leave.
I agree with most everything except for writing a note about leaving the state with another man. If he's like many abusive partners, he could be excessively jealous and reading that portion could cause him to feel like he's lost even more control over her, and to escalate
Tell her u have a interview as a waiter somewhere 😀
I can't help but think that you two simply aren't compatible. You are obviously not comfortable with her and Seans relationship, and to ask someone to drop a friendship of 10 years for you is simply unreasonable. Don't do that, that would be manipulative and mean.
Just be straight up and tell her what you think is inappropriate with her and Seans relationship, but don't expect her to end a friendship of 10 years for a relationship of 9 months…
Just know that people spend YEARS, miserable together, before realizing their incompatible and eventually ending it. Be glad you know yourself enough to make decisions based on your own feelings, which should never be ignored.
Good luck.
Seriously. This isnt just for yourself. Dont bring a child into this situation. He/she doesnt deserve to be born into a broken situation like this.
Lie and make sure its done. Then run for the hills
You honestly sound extremely childish “like why can’t you get over it?” When you even thought that he could be cheating and you immediately threw yourself at someone. Who do you think you are to think that he has to love you and support you when you broke him. He’s only there because he doesn’t wanna deal with court and custody battles over his daughter that’s about it. You are probably dead to him at this point.
Because he knows it’s sketchy.
You absolutely MUST NOT be alone with this woman. You clearly cannot be trusted in this situation and the fact that you have planned how to cheat on your poor wife is shocking.
You need to rethink your relationship if you find it so easy to consider cheating.
What are you doing about the drinking problem?
Yeah the supposed onus is on her to say well no I don’t want them, even though OP hasn’t done shit
If I were you I would just stop asking her out and planning everything. A relationship is a 2 way street, she has to make an effort.
After 2 years it seems extremely exhausting to plan a whole date every single time you want to see each other.
I dont know what she means being old fashioned but if I like somebody than I try spending time with them.
Maybe he doesn’t want to come over. Maybe he does. Just ask him
Do not buy a house with this guy specifically. But in general do not buy with a boyfriend.
I'm totally with you. I wish more people would understand.
Don’t accept this type of behaviour. He isn’t treating you right. You deserve to feel loved, appreciated and respected. You will find that but not with this guy. Move on, and don’t settle for less ❤️
The usual way to start a conversation is to start it. Maybe you could ask him for a coffee. Or if you think a more bold approach would be better, ask him out for lunch or dinner. What you can't do is nothing. Hoping that someone else will take the initiative on your feelings is impossible. IMO you should do what makes you happy. Best wishes.
Op said she’d been saving for 5 years….but it doesn’t sound like she’s chipping in since her concern is using the whole $300,000. Unless she may have meant her share and his plus his brothers house. My advise would be to not borrow twice buying a home, also to buy a house based on one income, not two. Because jobs can be shaky, especially in todays world. Unless you are planning on a cash purchase of a house.
All good. Neither of us are on the side of a kiddie fiddler, so I think we can just chalk up part of this to a misunderstanding.
If you're in a relationship, ask her. Many women would like a story written directly about them if it was from their SO, but some wouldn't. Some might prefer a story written for their tastes but not about them specifically. I don't think very many would like such a story written by someone who isn't their SO, although there are of course exceptions.