Right? And if she actually doesn't remember saying that (fat chance), that means it's like a normal every day occurrence for her and not a big deal in her mind.
Doesn’t sound like he’s into you if he’s bringing up minor incompatibilities. Sometimes, it’s okay to just enjoy what you have with someone and not he greedy for more. You are both happy. If he starts ro show interest in more then that’s when I would say something about it. You telling him and him not feeling the same will definitely change the dynamic.
What exactly are you looking for when you ask him to post stuff? Feeling like you're being shown off or feeling cared about? I'm asking because I also feel uncomfortable posting pictures going off about my girlfriend, but I show her I care in other ways. Maybe you can find a compromise. I usually write my girlfriend cards for special occasions or get her little gifts when I see something she might like. Your way of showing affection is posting him all over the internet, see what works better for him to show you he cares. Talk it out, don't allow resentment to corrode your relationship.
I bet he did like her body but he likes her constantly feeling guilty and insecure even more. When she's begging him to stay, she can't hold him accountable for his own flaws, and I'm sure she has to be extra kind and considerate.
No the relationships is mostly over. I would figure out how to get out of the house, and get on your own. You will never be able to trust him….Sell the house, and move out.
Op this is a 3 to 4 month old relationship, in when she’s already lied and isn’t fully committed to a boundary set. She shouldn’t have to give up any of her friends and neither should you. But she clearly lied to manipulate you, so she didn’t have to give up this friend. This is just not the greatest way to start a relationship honestly.
You just drip with utter troll energy but the thing that gets me; is I think you really think you are the “good person.” Man, what a disaster your life must be. Bye!
If you want your son to really like chess, you need to let him win some to build confidence. If you don't he will give up, your kiddo is just 10 after all, wouldn't you just give up at his age if you were proven to be so much more inferior than everyone else around you when you tried to play?
She will likely slowly increase her difficulty when your son has his confidence back up, and this time don't completely crush his confidence while you play, okay?
I'd break up with him find a normal dude, that's pretty out the gate… sorry you went through that, definitely not normal and a huge fucking red flag for 18 year old imagine the shit he's gonna be doing at 30, I'd dump his ass and find someone normal
This thing is not happening with me but she keeps asking and literally begging me to do this.
That is not ok, man. You don't have to participate in any sexual activities that you don't want to, and she should have respected your “no” the first time you said it. If there was something you wanted to do sexually that she found incredibly upsetting and told you point blank she couldn't do, would you feel comfortable nagging and browbeating her about it until she gave in? I doubt it, you don't seem like the type. That's a good thing.
Everyone is allowed to have whatever kinks they want as long as it doesn't hurt anybody and everyone involved consents. In this case you do not consent and you're so uncomfortable with the idea that I think carrying it out would cause you some emotional damage.
It's a big red flag that she's not taking no for an answer on this.
There is so much more to love than this. As harsh as it may sound, I don’t think she loves you like you love her – she loves that she has someone who will do the nude work so she doesn’t have to.
She’s trying to trap you with this baby, so be smart and don’t fall for it. Contact your brother even if he’s far away. The only logical thing to do is breakup. You’re not going to get better advice.
My ex sister in law did fertility treatments with her husband which were unsuccessful, they leaned the blame on her. He left her and she got knocked up by a ONS a few months later…
Get rid of the bf- I can , in a way, understand him not wanting the dogs to sleep with you, but saying no to the spare room, when it’s just you is ridiculous- the dogs were there before him.
It feels disrespectful because he’s treating you like a pupil rather than an equal. He’s assuming you don’t know anything rather than asking if you understand, therefore putting him up intellectually and putting you down as a result. This is one of the reasons I broke up with my last boyfriend, because I tried talking to him so many times only for him not to listen time and time again. If this is a habit then it’s probably not going to change, sorry.
well i'm attracted to older men, is that a red flag too?
No, not at all, because you see them as your equal. But they don't see you as an equal. That's the red flag. Healthy relationships are reciprocal and balanced. Age is not the point, but is often a clue. If one person has been working on a skill for 20 years, and the other has been working on it for a few years, are they going to be at equal levels of skill? Maybe, sometimes, but unlikely.
People and relationships are not static. They evolve and change due to personal growth, circumstances and situations, and they also require ongoing work. The “happily ever after” assumption here, as though once everything is started it’s just going to work forever, is unrealistic to the point of fantastical.
Moreover, you post is very self-centric and only seems interested in the impact on you and you getting what you want in this situation. Other people are allowed to have needs and preferences. Further, people often reassess things based on the experience of the relationship, which they can’t know until they’re actually in it. There is nothing wrong with this person (you indicate in comments that it’s one) deciding this arrangement isn’t for them, being clear about that and then giving you the option of what you want to do.
This is not about “appeasement”, which sounds patronizing and somewhat manipulative, but about showing respect for each of the individuals involved. You either need to commit to the monogamous relationship with that person or accept that the end of things with them. This is presuming of course that you have had a mature conversation about the issues that led to this, taking in to account their needs properly, and not just railroaded them with what you want.
Hey, DaisyMaisyB, you need to get yourself, your child, and your dog out of this environment. It’s not safe for any of you. Plus, if I knew you in real life, I would be calling both animal services AND child services because neither your dog nor your daughter should be in that environment. Now, I don’t know you in real life but there’s probably someone who does who feels the same way. If they call AS and CS, your child could be taken away from you (as well as your dog obviously). I don’t think you want that but you’re not doing anything to protect her yourself so it may come to that. You need to think about all of this and, hopefully, make the sensible decision to get the three of you away from this abuser.
Btw, I also have ADD/ADHD (they’re the same thing now) and it’s not an excuse to abuse animals.
He’s not going to be able to stop the porn, this is compulsive usage and he’s using it in a way that indicates mental health issues need to be addressed.
The only way I would even consider moving forward is if he started tested for his addiction and worked through why he’s doing this
OP my heart goes out to you. You are so young and can definitely leave but it may be nude. I was in your situation when I was 19 I was dating a guy that kept threatening to kill himself if I left. But you need to love yourself more
I can completely understand why you have been thrown off by this revelation. I would honestly find this very difficult to move past from myself. I despise the whole idea of multiple dating and even sleeping with multiple people on rotation. It all seems a bit soulless, tacky, and certainly would put a sour note to the start of a relationship to find out that the person you were excited to become exclusive with had just jumped out of bed with another person not 24 hours ago. It’s honestly depressing how this dating style has become normalised.
I’m not sure why this would bother you. Jealousy over his ex getting the money? I just don’t get it. As you said it’s only in her name because the kids are too young.
He put himself in this situation, and there's no real advice to give based on his question. He's asking how to tell his wife he fucked up, but he knows how to do that, he just told everyone here. There's no way to reframe this information that will change the outcome in a meaningful way.
She's either going to leave him immediately or spend a few months or years nurturing a healthy sense of resentment about the situation and then leave him.
OP didn't ask for advice on being a single parent, which is what he will most likely be. If it's somehow harsh to point that out, then so be it.
That’s fair. My problem is the feeling of being wanted isn’t mutual anymore. I’ll always want her for her but I’m starting to feel like she’s not attracted to me anymore or cares about my needs, which is having a negative effect on my self esteem.
hes purposely making marriage about the ring instead of what it should be about. and he's ignoring your feelings and your style of living in the world. I think a tattoo ring is five. many people in art and trades don't even wear one. some wear them on a necklace. instead of being flexible and working with you as the individual you are, he's trying to force you to do it the way he's doing it, and holding your future hostage to that. he's future faking you. if he was going to marry you it wouldn't take 8 years. he's comfortable and dragging it out.
I really find the work of Marshall Burtcher @healyourcodependency to be really helpful. his youtube channel is great, and his Instagram is full of red/green flag checklists.
in your case I would also recommend the work of @drramani. your partner is emotionally immature, doesn't communicate well, dismisses your needs, and overall sounds emotionally unavailable and avoidant. if not outright narcissistic.
I know you are invested and you love him but please you deserve better and you don't get that by staying and hoping he finally steps up. you get that by leaving, healing, learning your own attachment, trauma, childhood issues, etc, and not letting in potential partners who don't honor your boundaries appropriately.
on pdfdrive.com you can read Dr Jonice Webbs book on childhood empirical neglect. “running on empty” and it has a sequel I recommend as well.
Don't meet him. If he's this manipulative BEFORE the first date then nothing good can come of it.
You'll be stuck 2 hours from home with only his company. Bad bad idea.
Right? And if she actually doesn't remember saying that (fat chance), that means it's like a normal every day occurrence for her and not a big deal in her mind.
Yes and I laughed at that too
Doesn’t sound like he’s into you if he’s bringing up minor incompatibilities. Sometimes, it’s okay to just enjoy what you have with someone and not he greedy for more. You are both happy. If he starts ro show interest in more then that’s when I would say something about it. You telling him and him not feeling the same will definitely change the dynamic.
What exactly are you looking for when you ask him to post stuff? Feeling like you're being shown off or feeling cared about? I'm asking because I also feel uncomfortable posting pictures going off about my girlfriend, but I show her I care in other ways. Maybe you can find a compromise. I usually write my girlfriend cards for special occasions or get her little gifts when I see something she might like. Your way of showing affection is posting him all over the internet, see what works better for him to show you he cares. Talk it out, don't allow resentment to corrode your relationship.
The fuck are you smoking. For real. Try again tomorrow, today didn’t work.
I bet he did like her body but he likes her constantly feeling guilty and insecure even more. When she's begging him to stay, she can't hold him accountable for his own flaws, and I'm sure she has to be extra kind and considerate.
No the relationships is mostly over. I would figure out how to get out of the house, and get on your own. You will never be able to trust him….Sell the house, and move out.
Op this is a 3 to 4 month old relationship, in when she’s already lied and isn’t fully committed to a boundary set. She shouldn’t have to give up any of her friends and neither should you. But she clearly lied to manipulate you, so she didn’t have to give up this friend. This is just not the greatest way to start a relationship honestly.
Same way everyone should, be honest and kind.
You’re 18 and 3 people have liked you. That’s a perfectly normal number.
Have you liked anybody? Have you flirted or made any moves on anybody?
You just drip with utter troll energy but the thing that gets me; is I think you really think you are the “good person.” Man, what a disaster your life must be. Bye!
Hmm. It’s almost as if opening up a previously monogamous relationship isn’t a good idea.
yeah all those downvotes you got say otherwise
Even harder is probably finding someone your own age to date you
Sounds pretty damn normal (the video).
That was to be expected, lol.
All I can say is, you're right. Everyone knows she is your girlfriend and based on what you've presented you haven't done anything suspicious.
what did y’all do for his 40th? was it this thought out? could he be jealous?
If you want your son to really like chess, you need to let him win some to build confidence. If you don't he will give up, your kiddo is just 10 after all, wouldn't you just give up at his age if you were proven to be so much more inferior than everyone else around you when you tried to play?
She will likely slowly increase her difficulty when your son has his confidence back up, and this time don't completely crush his confidence while you play, okay?
I'd break up with him find a normal dude, that's pretty out the gate… sorry you went through that, definitely not normal and a huge fucking red flag for 18 year old imagine the shit he's gonna be doing at 30, I'd dump his ass and find someone normal
This thing is not happening with me but she keeps asking and literally begging me to do this.
That is not ok, man. You don't have to participate in any sexual activities that you don't want to, and she should have respected your “no” the first time you said it. If there was something you wanted to do sexually that she found incredibly upsetting and told you point blank she couldn't do, would you feel comfortable nagging and browbeating her about it until she gave in? I doubt it, you don't seem like the type. That's a good thing.
Everyone is allowed to have whatever kinks they want as long as it doesn't hurt anybody and everyone involved consents. In this case you do not consent and you're so uncomfortable with the idea that I think carrying it out would cause you some emotional damage.
It's a big red flag that she's not taking no for an answer on this.
There is so much more to love than this. As harsh as it may sound, I don’t think she loves you like you love her – she loves that she has someone who will do the nude work so she doesn’t have to.
She’s trying to trap you with this baby, so be smart and don’t fall for it. Contact your brother even if he’s far away. The only logical thing to do is breakup. You’re not going to get better advice.
If he is mean you should, if you don't feel safe leaving
Why even be involved with all this noise? Go find someone you don’t feel like you need to check up on like that. Not worth your effort girl.
My ex sister in law did fertility treatments with her husband which were unsuccessful, they leaned the blame on her. He left her and she got knocked up by a ONS a few months later…
Get rid of the bf- I can , in a way, understand him not wanting the dogs to sleep with you, but saying no to the spare room, when it’s just you is ridiculous- the dogs were there before him.
Is that some sort of shaming tactic
I'm so curious, how were you using them? You just stick it in and pump, right?
It feels disrespectful because he’s treating you like a pupil rather than an equal. He’s assuming you don’t know anything rather than asking if you understand, therefore putting him up intellectually and putting you down as a result. This is one of the reasons I broke up with my last boyfriend, because I tried talking to him so many times only for him not to listen time and time again. If this is a habit then it’s probably not going to change, sorry.
Yeah and if its only cheating or any moral failing?
Bet a bunch of the shady fucks in these comments have bribed a cop or shoplifted or lied or cheated
well i'm attracted to older men, is that a red flag too?
No, not at all, because you see them as your equal. But they don't see you as an equal. That's the red flag. Healthy relationships are reciprocal and balanced. Age is not the point, but is often a clue. If one person has been working on a skill for 20 years, and the other has been working on it for a few years, are they going to be at equal levels of skill? Maybe, sometimes, but unlikely.
Just for future reference, we don't get hit on every time we go out, especially in a group because that's more scary to approach lololol
Double standards = Red flag!
People and relationships are not static. They evolve and change due to personal growth, circumstances and situations, and they also require ongoing work. The “happily ever after” assumption here, as though once everything is started it’s just going to work forever, is unrealistic to the point of fantastical.
Moreover, you post is very self-centric and only seems interested in the impact on you and you getting what you want in this situation. Other people are allowed to have needs and preferences. Further, people often reassess things based on the experience of the relationship, which they can’t know until they’re actually in it. There is nothing wrong with this person (you indicate in comments that it’s one) deciding this arrangement isn’t for them, being clear about that and then giving you the option of what you want to do.
This is not about “appeasement”, which sounds patronizing and somewhat manipulative, but about showing respect for each of the individuals involved. You either need to commit to the monogamous relationship with that person or accept that the end of things with them. This is presuming of course that you have had a mature conversation about the issues that led to this, taking in to account their needs properly, and not just railroaded them with what you want.
Yeah but the intent is what makes it gaslighting, that's what separates it from just being an asshole.
But I guess I give up because these days anyone lying about anything is called gaslighting and anyone who does something selfish is a narcissist lol
Hey, DaisyMaisyB, you need to get yourself, your child, and your dog out of this environment. It’s not safe for any of you. Plus, if I knew you in real life, I would be calling both animal services AND child services because neither your dog nor your daughter should be in that environment. Now, I don’t know you in real life but there’s probably someone who does who feels the same way. If they call AS and CS, your child could be taken away from you (as well as your dog obviously). I don’t think you want that but you’re not doing anything to protect her yourself so it may come to that. You need to think about all of this and, hopefully, make the sensible decision to get the three of you away from this abuser.
Btw, I also have ADD/ADHD (they’re the same thing now) and it’s not an excuse to abuse animals.
He’s not going to be able to stop the porn, this is compulsive usage and he’s using it in a way that indicates mental health issues need to be addressed.
The only way I would even consider moving forward is if he started tested for his addiction and worked through why he’s doing this
OP my heart goes out to you. You are so young and can definitely leave but it may be nude. I was in your situation when I was 19 I was dating a guy that kept threatening to kill himself if I left. But you need to love yourself more
Get therapy dude. You obviously have an incredibly low opinion of yourself.
Maybe if you worked on yourself and built your self esteem, you could find a woman who thinks you alone are enough.
I can completely understand why you have been thrown off by this revelation. I would honestly find this very difficult to move past from myself. I despise the whole idea of multiple dating and even sleeping with multiple people on rotation. It all seems a bit soulless, tacky, and certainly would put a sour note to the start of a relationship to find out that the person you were excited to become exclusive with had just jumped out of bed with another person not 24 hours ago. It’s honestly depressing how this dating style has become normalised.
Maybe you'll get to help pick out a name for the child when some random guy gets her pregnant.
This person lied daily and mislead you rather than talking to you. That’s not the person you thought you were befriending.
I’m not sure why this would bother you. Jealousy over his ex getting the money? I just don’t get it. As you said it’s only in her name because the kids are too young.
He done fucked up.
He put himself in this situation, and there's no real advice to give based on his question. He's asking how to tell his wife he fucked up, but he knows how to do that, he just told everyone here. There's no way to reframe this information that will change the outcome in a meaningful way.
She's either going to leave him immediately or spend a few months or years nurturing a healthy sense of resentment about the situation and then leave him.
OP didn't ask for advice on being a single parent, which is what he will most likely be. If it's somehow harsh to point that out, then so be it.
He hasn’t bought you a ring or gave you a ring so In case you didn’t know that still just makes “just a girlfriend “ ?
14 years difference. Poor 3rd world country. Rich 1st world country.
Family Sugar daddy without the “FWB” benefits. Can I have one too please?
At 40 he should know better.
Na before me, I'd like to take credit tho lmao.
yes there definitely is but we always just say we’re homies. lol.
Perhaps. He tends to be highly critical.
Nope. He showed who he is, believe him.
I mean realistically speaking, if I still end up living a long time, there’s always ??
That’s fair. My problem is the feeling of being wanted isn’t mutual anymore. I’ll always want her for her but I’m starting to feel like she’s not attracted to me anymore or cares about my needs, which is having a negative effect on my self esteem.
hes purposely making marriage about the ring instead of what it should be about. and he's ignoring your feelings and your style of living in the world. I think a tattoo ring is five. many people in art and trades don't even wear one. some wear them on a necklace. instead of being flexible and working with you as the individual you are, he's trying to force you to do it the way he's doing it, and holding your future hostage to that. he's future faking you. if he was going to marry you it wouldn't take 8 years. he's comfortable and dragging it out.
I really find the work of Marshall Burtcher @healyourcodependency to be really helpful. his youtube channel is great, and his Instagram is full of red/green flag checklists.
in your case I would also recommend the work of @drramani. your partner is emotionally immature, doesn't communicate well, dismisses your needs, and overall sounds emotionally unavailable and avoidant. if not outright narcissistic.
I know you are invested and you love him but please you deserve better and you don't get that by staying and hoping he finally steps up. you get that by leaving, healing, learning your own attachment, trauma, childhood issues, etc, and not letting in potential partners who don't honor your boundaries appropriately.
on pdfdrive.com you can read Dr Jonice Webbs book on childhood empirical neglect. “running on empty” and it has a sequel I recommend as well.
Lmao you’re definitely getting cheated on bud. Hate to break it to you