ee. I had no idea what one was when I got the opportunity. Did a quick google, put down family. I’d only put down boss if family or relationship. The only other innocent thing I can think if is he literally doesn’t understand what it is and she helped him fill them out or he thought it was just who to call if you die. But, now he should and should change
ESH – He's 24 and still immortal, truly a wondrous time of life. He's not thinking it's going to benefit her – he needed a birthday and someone was there that could tell him.
Of course being mid 40's I can see why she's pissed but I doubt he gave it a second thought – or the admission he doesn't know his gf's bday – but apparently knows the bosses . the optics are terrible
replying to your edit; that’s kinda how i feel. but it wasn’t always this way, it just kinda developed as time went on. i feel as though i’m the only person in their life.
Honestly not really I just sorta figured it’d be a nice little addition to the rose, at first I was going to give it to her for our 4 month, but we weren’t able to see each other, and it kinda just slipped my mind the last time we hung out, if I know there’s a chance we see each other before Christmas though I’ll definitely give it to her before then
Un abrazo fuerte… our Mex moms can sometimes be cruel. With that said, my therapist gives me wonderful tools to work with and deal with my moms behavior. One of those tools includes getting curious. “Why would you do that? What was the point? What were you trying to prove? Did you even think that through” questions you can ask your mom when your’re in a calm state of mind. You’re an adult now and you can very easily mother and love and take care of yourself, because our moms sometimes failed us.
Get curious about her motivations too. Did she ever have a quinceañera? How was her relationship with her mom and her grandma? What is it in her past that now creates the behavior that she exhibits?
Mom and I once got into a yelling match where I was crying and she was making fun of me. I told her that if she continues her behavior it creates this damn hurtful loop, and I’m not participating. I chose forgiveness, even though I was angry, because I had said my peace and doggoneit I still have love for my mom. She’s human and fallible. It sucks to come to this stage in life where we turn into our parents parents.
Well there you go. As for the “is it normal” I haven't done a TON of dating but I've done enough and this has happened to me zero times. Usually if you don't hit it off on date one and no date two happens, you never hear from the person again.
Leave him…. If you are listing for others now, you'll be sleeping with others later. You can't make someone more attractive to you. If you truly love him you wouldn't be lasting after other men. You love the idea of the security he brings you. As a man who found out the naked way, it's better to leave him than destroy him by cheating. Grow up and be an adult.
I can can agree that inflection could make a difference there. But I'd say that fact that she felt compelled to let him know she wasn't in the mood before they even saw each other speaks to how much pressure he applies to get sex. And she already said he is selfish lover. That will kill the mood too.
My reasons against it are the statistics behind it. Seems like 50% of marriages end in divorce, so I’m not in love with those odds. Beyond that, I don’t agree with me having to prove I love someone to external parties (family, government, etc).
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That’s something you’ll need to decide for yourself if you’re willing to give her another chance of having your trust. If it is truly a limit/boundary for you, then your decision would be to break up. But if your feelings for her are still really strong, then consider giving her another chance. And during that time, you’ll likely be on guard a bit, but that’s ok. And if she breaks your trust again, then you break-up.
Reddit can offer perspectives, but you’ll ultimately have to decide what you can and can’t handle/tolerate. But before you do that, I think you both need to have that open/honest/raw/calm conversation.
You’re definitely right, I don’t want to bail at all. He’s really a great guy.. probably my first healthy relationship so I’m just trying to find ways to work through it the right way.
You said you knew she was like this. You chose to date her and continue to be with her despite knowing she’s like this. If you don’t like it then leave. Don’t really know what else to say tbh. You don’t have to date her
I didn’t say she wasn’t allowed to do anything. as a mom of two my own mom has said things that get under my skin.. I have friends that I don’t agree with their parenting styles. I keep it pushing. people are always judging people, especially parents. you do what’s best for your kid and you move on. I didn’t say cut her friend off, I’m just saying it’s not that big of a deal.
Sounds like you should take 20 steps back from dating then and simply take time to work on yourself and become more self-confident.
I do not have malicious intents. I really like this guy but i am so insecure.
OP…the average 30+ year old has zero interest in dating a 21 year old, especially one that is insecure and shy….. do yourself a favour and hold off dating for a while until you're more self-confident, and better at recognising red flags.
Op, sounds like you’re girlfriend is trying to start a “pick me girl,” fight. Which is dumb af and very immature. I actually expected you all to be 18-16 range and had to double check what ages you put.
Amy needs to get over what’s going on with Millie. She’s not going to be “the only girl,” in every situation and needs to desperately grow out of the mindset.
Don't. Beyond the fact it's extremely unprofessional for him all you're going to do is set yourself up to be hurt which will hurt the quality of your education in that class
While true, he's been making a lot of mistakes lately with timing and planning. For Valentine's Day, turns out he made a reservation at the right place, right time, but WRONG day. I was so upset with him. Luckily he found a place we could go but it was a bottom-of-the-barrel choice. The main redeeming factor was that we went to a dessert place that was nice.
Why do you want a guy who thinks its okay to two-time? Even if he were to ditch her, could you be sure that two months from now he won't have someone else or sneak around on tinder? He is not a good guy and you will just keep hurting yourself by staying.
You mentioned that in the past to get over something like this you’d immediately be seeking attention elsewhere to distract yourself. Since you’re not doing that this time all of your feelings are on the surface. Let that happen but don’t let it run your life. Give yourself a time frame for how long you’re willing to wait for him then move on with your life. You’re 20; how long are you willing to wait for someone who doesn’t return your feelings? It’s something to consider. Good luck and best wishes.
He is 23. If he doesn't break these habits right now, they will be there forever.
If you don't either get him to deal with this NOW, or LEAVE, one day you will be cleaning your underwear and see a couple of strands of fur and think “I really should have listened to those people”.
I’ve seen this sub crucify a person or person’s partner for talking about their sex life with friends if someone is uncomfortable. But being a pushy asshole about continuing a conversation that was explicitly said was inappropriate because 2 of the other 5 people were fine with it is now okay. Especially when all 3 people were calm and polite in telling you it was inappropriate to continue. Especially when you’re a guest either in their home or at their celebration. And shouting like an asshole at your fiancé in front of their entire family when they’ve politely told you to stop an inappropriate conversation is okay, because they all told you to stop talking about said inappropriate topic? What the fuck am I reading?!?
You want to skip ahead and show up for all the feel good daddy daughter wedding stuff like everything’s fine. It’s not. You’re a selfish person. She had a very normal reaction to you dating a minor. Might as well wish all of us hadn’t been born, but skimming through the comments I haven’t seen one person feel bad for you yet. She’s better off without you. I’d say leave her alone, but you’ll do whatever the hell you want. Big surprise there.
Some men keep these kinds of collections from their past relationships without thinking that this is offensive in any way to their current partner. If you don't think this is okay, you should just communicate it to him calmly and see how he responds. If he respects your feelings, he will get rid of. At the point of being engaged I'd wager he did. He probably just had no idea that this is something you consider wrong.
Do you understand that a man that thinks like this also probably thinks in this way in regard to female relatives of his own?? He is not giving off safe energy for any child, or woman within his family to be around. He was projecting what HE would attempt if he were with his own sister. That's deeply troubling and not a person I would want my child around, much less raised by. The fact it even came into his mind means it's an option he would consider. Think on that.
Remembering the experience again and again in a safe environment and therefore beginning to recognize that you aren’t in that experience anymore and that you are safe is part of the point! You’re practicing relaxation techniques while writing and systematically desensitizing yourself to that event’s mood ruining power. Chat with a therapist about it if you can afford it
They pretty much consider him a lost cause at this point and won’t do anything to help him or want anything to do with him. They are afraid by being involved with him they will get into trouble.
You could always have a “wedding” it’s everything that a wedding is except there’s no legal marriage. Don’t get a marriage certificate. Don’t have to get an officiant. It could just be a promise to be together or whatever. You don’t have to tell people it’s not an actually wedding either. That’s just what I’ve thought about bc I’ve dated someone who doesn’t believe in marriage before.
Well, she fell out of love with me a while ago. There's that.
ee. I had no idea what one was when I got the opportunity. Did a quick google, put down family. I’d only put down boss if family or relationship. The only other innocent thing I can think if is he literally doesn’t understand what it is and she helped him fill them out or he thought it was just who to call if you die. But, now he should and should change
ESH – He's 24 and still immortal, truly a wondrous time of life. He's not thinking it's going to benefit her – he needed a birthday and someone was there that could tell him.
Of course being mid 40's I can see why she's pissed but I doubt he gave it a second thought – or the admission he doesn't know his gf's bday – but apparently knows the bosses . the optics are terrible
replying to your edit; that’s kinda how i feel. but it wasn’t always this way, it just kinda developed as time went on. i feel as though i’m the only person in their life.
Honestly not really I just sorta figured it’d be a nice little addition to the rose, at first I was going to give it to her for our 4 month, but we weren’t able to see each other, and it kinda just slipped my mind the last time we hung out, if I know there’s a chance we see each other before Christmas though I’ll definitely give it to her before then
Un abrazo fuerte… our Mex moms can sometimes be cruel. With that said, my therapist gives me wonderful tools to work with and deal with my moms behavior. One of those tools includes getting curious. “Why would you do that? What was the point? What were you trying to prove? Did you even think that through” questions you can ask your mom when your’re in a calm state of mind. You’re an adult now and you can very easily mother and love and take care of yourself, because our moms sometimes failed us.
Get curious about her motivations too. Did she ever have a quinceañera? How was her relationship with her mom and her grandma? What is it in her past that now creates the behavior that she exhibits?
Mom and I once got into a yelling match where I was crying and she was making fun of me. I told her that if she continues her behavior it creates this damn hurtful loop, and I’m not participating. I chose forgiveness, even though I was angry, because I had said my peace and doggoneit I still have love for my mom. She’s human and fallible. It sucks to come to this stage in life where we turn into our parents parents.
You aren't responsible for whether she is hurt or not. You don't need to and shouldn't be in this situation. Don't stay with her to your detriment.
I understand your frustration but if you do some research, men have a weaker immune system than women
Well there you go. As for the “is it normal” I haven't done a TON of dating but I've done enough and this has happened to me zero times. Usually if you don't hit it off on date one and no date two happens, you never hear from the person again.
Be changed my comment evidently you failed to tell the truth of your past! No wonder she doesn’t trust you!
Should I at least tell him how I feel before avoiding him?
Leave him…. If you are listing for others now, you'll be sleeping with others later. You can't make someone more attractive to you. If you truly love him you wouldn't be lasting after other men. You love the idea of the security he brings you. As a man who found out the naked way, it's better to leave him than destroy him by cheating. Grow up and be an adult.
I can can agree that inflection could make a difference there. But I'd say that fact that she felt compelled to let him know she wasn't in the mood before they even saw each other speaks to how much pressure he applies to get sex. And she already said he is selfish lover. That will kill the mood too.
My reasons against it are the statistics behind it. Seems like 50% of marriages end in divorce, so I’m not in love with those odds. Beyond that, I don’t agree with me having to prove I love someone to external parties (family, government, etc).
this is a weird thing to type out and then say to someone.
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That’s something you’ll need to decide for yourself if you’re willing to give her another chance of having your trust. If it is truly a limit/boundary for you, then your decision would be to break up. But if your feelings for her are still really strong, then consider giving her another chance. And during that time, you’ll likely be on guard a bit, but that’s ok. And if she breaks your trust again, then you break-up.
Reddit can offer perspectives, but you’ll ultimately have to decide what you can and can’t handle/tolerate. But before you do that, I think you both need to have that open/honest/raw/calm conversation.
You’re definitely right, I don’t want to bail at all. He’s really a great guy.. probably my first healthy relationship so I’m just trying to find ways to work through it the right way.
You said you knew she was like this. You chose to date her and continue to be with her despite knowing she’s like this. If you don’t like it then leave. Don’t really know what else to say tbh. You don’t have to date her
I didn’t say she wasn’t allowed to do anything. as a mom of two my own mom has said things that get under my skin.. I have friends that I don’t agree with their parenting styles. I keep it pushing. people are always judging people, especially parents. you do what’s best for your kid and you move on. I didn’t say cut her friend off, I’m just saying it’s not that big of a deal.
And OP is called sn enabler. OP is actually supporting her in this behavior.
He's cheating on his Gf with you. Does he even work weekends
She is breastfeeding, she cannot donate plasma
thanks for your honesty
i really am insecure and shy
Sounds like you should take 20 steps back from dating then and simply take time to work on yourself and become more self-confident.
I do not have malicious intents. I really like this guy but i am so insecure.
OP…the average 30+ year old has zero interest in dating a 21 year old, especially one that is insecure and shy….. do yourself a favour and hold off dating for a while until you're more self-confident, and better at recognising red flags.
Op, sounds like you’re girlfriend is trying to start a “pick me girl,” fight. Which is dumb af and very immature. I actually expected you all to be 18-16 range and had to double check what ages you put.
Amy needs to get over what’s going on with Millie. She’s not going to be “the only girl,” in every situation and needs to desperately grow out of the mindset.
Do not put up with it.
OMG 4 kids under 6 no wonder she doesnt wanna have sex. She is overstimulated ALL day.
Don't. Beyond the fact it's extremely unprofessional for him all you're going to do is set yourself up to be hurt which will hurt the quality of your education in that class
While true, he's been making a lot of mistakes lately with timing and planning. For Valentine's Day, turns out he made a reservation at the right place, right time, but WRONG day. I was so upset with him. Luckily he found a place we could go but it was a bottom-of-the-barrel choice. The main redeeming factor was that we went to a dessert place that was nice.
Good point. I think she offered, but doesn't really mean it. If he accepts and moves out she will say she will pay installmlents or something.
Sell to the market. Her buy out will be manipulative 100 percent.
Why do you want a guy who thinks its okay to two-time? Even if he were to ditch her, could you be sure that two months from now he won't have someone else or sneak around on tinder? He is not a good guy and you will just keep hurting yourself by staying.
You mentioned that in the past to get over something like this you’d immediately be seeking attention elsewhere to distract yourself. Since you’re not doing that this time all of your feelings are on the surface. Let that happen but don’t let it run your life. Give yourself a time frame for how long you’re willing to wait for him then move on with your life. You’re 20; how long are you willing to wait for someone who doesn’t return your feelings? It’s something to consider. Good luck and best wishes.
You’re marrying someone and you’re not in line about whether you want kids?
You’re 22 what is the rush…
Ditch him. That's how he intends to treat you.
“(You) leak a furry discharge”
I mean this alone right here…
You are TWENTY. YEARS. OLD.
You do not need to stick around.
He is 23. If he doesn't break these habits right now, they will be there forever.
If you don't either get him to deal with this NOW, or LEAVE, one day you will be cleaning your underwear and see a couple of strands of fur and think “I really should have listened to those people”.
Right!?! Like, WTF!?!
I’ve seen this sub crucify a person or person’s partner for talking about their sex life with friends if someone is uncomfortable. But being a pushy asshole about continuing a conversation that was explicitly said was inappropriate because 2 of the other 5 people were fine with it is now okay. Especially when all 3 people were calm and polite in telling you it was inappropriate to continue. Especially when you’re a guest either in their home or at their celebration. And shouting like an asshole at your fiancé in front of their entire family when they’ve politely told you to stop an inappropriate conversation is okay, because they all told you to stop talking about said inappropriate topic? What the fuck am I reading?!?
You want to skip ahead and show up for all the feel good daddy daughter wedding stuff like everything’s fine. It’s not. You’re a selfish person. She had a very normal reaction to you dating a minor. Might as well wish all of us hadn’t been born, but skimming through the comments I haven’t seen one person feel bad for you yet. She’s better off without you. I’d say leave her alone, but you’ll do whatever the hell you want. Big surprise there.
Yeah but the made up story doesn’t work without a bit of tension
100% you will not find a quick fix to this.
Get a sleep study
Some men keep these kinds of collections from their past relationships without thinking that this is offensive in any way to their current partner. If you don't think this is okay, you should just communicate it to him calmly and see how he responds. If he respects your feelings, he will get rid of. At the point of being engaged I'd wager he did. He probably just had no idea that this is something you consider wrong.
Do you understand that a man that thinks like this also probably thinks in this way in regard to female relatives of his own?? He is not giving off safe energy for any child, or woman within his family to be around. He was projecting what HE would attempt if he were with his own sister. That's deeply troubling and not a person I would want my child around, much less raised by. The fact it even came into his mind means it's an option he would consider. Think on that.
Remembering the experience again and again in a safe environment and therefore beginning to recognize that you aren’t in that experience anymore and that you are safe is part of the point! You’re practicing relaxation techniques while writing and systematically desensitizing yourself to that event’s mood ruining power. Chat with a therapist about it if you can afford it
There was no request for her to take birth control
I appreciate the advice.
They pretty much consider him a lost cause at this point and won’t do anything to help him or want anything to do with him. They are afraid by being involved with him they will get into trouble.
You could always have a “wedding” it’s everything that a wedding is except there’s no legal marriage. Don’t get a marriage certificate. Don’t have to get an officiant. It could just be a promise to be together or whatever. You don’t have to tell people it’s not an actually wedding either. That’s just what I’ve thought about bc I’ve dated someone who doesn’t believe in marriage before.
Are you really that shocked though? Reddit advice comes down to one of three cookie cutter responses every time.
1) Get therapy
2) Go no contact
3) Break up