Ima very romantic person,and I go out of my way everyday to make her feel better and acts of kindness. I'm more hurt that she thinks my thoughts are stupid.
Honestly you should BUT i think it's better to wait. Wait till you meet him again and confirm it or see more symptoms so you can confidently let your sister know
On another note, you’re wearing glow in the dark rings after the first day of piercing? I’m not an expert, but I have an ex and friends who got it done, and if I remember correctly, you’re supposed to wear a metal bar (titanium if I remember correctly) for damn near half a year while they heal. I’d go get a second opinion on them if I were you. You don’t want an infection in such a sensitive area.
I felt so rambling already, but there are things I do enjoy very much about her, and she still feels like home, and my best friend in many ways. But we can't go more than a day or two without these explosions. I guess you are right, I'm not getting anything out of it anymore, I think I just keep hoping it will change and she will see that she's had some faults here too and we could work through them and get back to where we were. But it seems increasingly unlikely.
Husband needs to take HIS ego out of this. That’s the source of this entire conflict. I can’t imagine why anyone would stop their spouse having a nice gift even if they themselves can’t afford to give it.
Do you usually get blackout drunk? Are you usually walking around when you do? Part of your personal work after this should be to examine your drinking habits.
There might be some other relationship issue you want to address separate from this
Only you can say how much you wanted to be with this girl.
I don’t want to tell you what you experienced but have you considered that you were assaulted? Did you engage with her or were you passed out when she started?
Break up. Move on. Find someone who appreciates you and listens to you. Be glad it only lasted two years. Easier said than done, however, don’t tie the know. You’re questioning it because your nervous system and brain wants to save you. This person is unsafe for you and toxic.
It's cute the way you keep yelling “I'M LEAVING” and then stomp back in here in those some oversized boots to flail wildly again. You have not made a single point or argument yet, you're just screeching nude takes at the top of your lungs. Which, again from a casual glance at your post history, seems like the only thing you do.
You know who else is full of poorly thought out hot takes? Toddlers. I'm just saying the similarities are really piling up.
I would never dream of going through his phone, but this is honestly grade A advice. I’m probably going to pretend that I didn’t learn about it and that he doesn’t just not want my nudes, but anyone else’s in the world either. Thanks!
Tell him that. Sit down and try to keep calm about it and tell him “When you say that you think I'm not attracted to you, it hurts me because I am attracted to you. I feel like you are blaming me and not supporting me as I try to work through the issues. It doesn't help and it makes me feel worse”.
You're getting dinged up every 15 minutes or so you're together so…
Honestly I'd keep some physical distance for a bit. It's passive aggressive, but maybe it will make her more mindful of her movements if you feel like you need distance in order to not get hit.
Honestly, if it's happening with the frequency that you say it is, she may be doing at least some of this on purpose.
This will not be one singular big talk. It’s more likely that you’ll be having talks for the next little while. I’ve had “big talks” that were actually two or three talks and that was only over one thing; if you’ve let things stockpile then there will be a LOT to unpack so try not to do it all at once.
Write down some stuff you want to talk about so you don’t forget. Choose a couple more pressing issues and focus on those.
Try to remember to be curious, not defensive. It is okay to have fucked up. You’re having this convo not to prove that you’re actually innocent, but to admit that you may have done some stuff to hurt your partner and to tell your partner that they have hurt you. This doesn’t make you bad people: it makes you human.
What you’re offering each other during these discussions is a gift. It is a gift to tell people about how you want to be treated and how you want the future to look. That is info that you give someone only if you want them to keep being in your life. If it hurts to hear about your shortcomings, remind yourself that she is telling them to you because she knows you can do better and wants to see you improve.
This is TOUGH. It may help to have an impartial third person present; couples therapy can provide this if you have access to that. Because things may get heated (emotions are nude to manage sometimes) and it helps to have a third person to keep things grounded and remind you two that you are safe.
Stare at her blanky and say, let's normalise context.
Because honestly, the stuff you're saying is things I'll randomly see on social media so might as well use the standard response people give when someone states something assuming everyone has the same background knowledge or interests.
I think what I was trying to say about the children if all feelings are lost for her , it might be a better solution to just seperrate and we make arrangements for the kids … staying together not having feelings and contining to fight everyday might not be a good solution just bcos of the kids. I don't know I'm not a therapist that's why I was asking what's the best way for her to be happy .btw I have encourage her to see a therapist and she agreed that she needs to see one to heal but as of now nothing yet . I don't know whatver can lessens the pain as much as possible might be the way to go . I myself need a therapist and I've told her that
I’m bi and no, this hasn’t happened to me, because if you’ve agreed to not have sex outside the relationship, that includes people of any and all sexes/genders. If your “urges” get so strong that you can’t keep yourself from cheating…then don’t be in a monogamous relationship. Seriously, it is that easy.
You need to give up on your girlfriend and realise that you blew it, with only yourself to blame. Then go off and do all the exploration you need, until you are actually ready for a committed relationship or maybe have realised that ethical nonmonogamy is what you want. However, you have really screwed this up. Your logic of opening up the relationship being the first step to break up, while happily cheating behind her back, completely escapes me. You can’t even promise her to be faithful now, because you claim yourself that you can’t resist your “urges” – and considering you also mention other women in your list of urges, I’d claim that being bi has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Just do your exploration and seriously work on your self reflection. You purposefully hurt the hell out of a woman you claim to love, because you are horny. Just think that through.
Seems rude but maybe after 8 years you should either A) know that he's like this or B) cut him some slack if he has done a lot for you before. I mean 8 years…it's ok to be annoyed but what do you think reddit is gonna say? Lolol “DUMP HIM THAT'S A RED FLAG” lol c'mon this a minor annoyance it's not a major relationship issue
Not relevant but I’ll never understand people insisting something that sounds unrealistic is an elaborate Reddit lie. Is your life so boring you assume everyone else also has the time for that!
Oh dude my ex was one of them and I was lucky that it wasn’t too long of a relationship, otherwise I can definitely see how his addiction issues and explosive temper would have left my self esteem in the gutter. As it was, he was horribly addicted, extremely manipulative, and constantly insinuating that I wasn’t his “type” because he was into “young milfs who do anal”. Puke. Ironically, I left him and everything in my life improved! Found my soulmate, we are having a bebe, my debt is gone (helps to not be the only one paying bills!), my mental health is stable, and my self esteem is good. Men like that are so devoid of any sense of self and belonging that they make it their mission to destroy the people closest to them so they can feel “better” than someone. It’s so pathetic and sad. I’m glad I got away and I hope every woman, sister, mother, and friend who deals with one of these douchebags can do the same for herself.
I would be more tolerant of your husband's behavior except:
1) You're currently in the middle of reconciling after a separation. There was EVER a time that he should be stepping up, it's now.
2) You have been second place to his best friend in the past and he doesn't seem to think there's anything wrong with that.
3) The shushing mines that he was going to do what he wanted to do and hide it from you. That's not a good look; I have to wonder what other stuff has even up to/ hiding?
I think it's fair for you to reconsider this reconciliation and if you don't you need to lay down really specifically what you expect from him for this to work
You are allowing his threat to keep you bonded to him. If you ACTUALLY believe him then you’d call emergency services on his threat and inform his whole family so they can take care of him and his children.
But you would rather put YOURSELF in the position of the one person in the whole world that keeps him from taking his life. I’m not saying you intentionally are doing this but if you look at yourself deeply, you’ll find it.
Leave him, record him while you do. Call services on him if he makes the threat again.
I don't want to scare you OP, but I would start looking out for signs of drug use.
My ex was a heroin user and I would frequently find blood spatter in our bathroom, on the interior roof of our car, and other places. When I finally caught on to what he had been doing, he admitted he was shooting up in those locations and I pieced it together.
There’s a reason he doesn’t want you with her and at this point, I don’t think it’s because he thinks you’re too good for her etc. it’s because he likes her.
Neither of you are wrong, but differences in financial values can be difficult to get past. My husband and I aren't so different from you guys.. I've always been a big saver, he's always been more of a spender. But we've also been able to listen to and help each other… If it weren't for me, we wouldn't have some fairly substantial savings. If it weren't for him, well there are all sorts of luxuries I very much enjoy that I'd probably be passing up.
For me, there's also an anxiety component. Spending a lot of money can be legitimately scary to me. Granted we don't make anywhere near as much as you guys, I don't know if I'd still feel that way if we made as much money as you. But it's something to consider.
What is it that she's saving for? Do you know? Is there anything you actually need that you can't afford? Saving for retirement is great of course, but living in the moment is important too. I don't think it's necessarily wise to put all your eggs into a basket that isn't really going to benefit you for 20-30 years. Don't live like you're going to die tomorrow but don't live like the future is a guarantee either, if you get what I mean. It's okay to spend money on things that give you joy right now, even if they're just “toys”.
I do think the bottom line is that you need a budget, though. It doesn't mean that you have to “put any sort of cap on our individual discretionary spending”, but it does mean you would both have a certain amount of money of your own to spend however you want, and that's important. It doesn't sound like she wants that because obviously she doesn't want you spending money on things like this, but you're different people with different views on money and life and what brings you joy. She shouldn't be forcing you to live! her way any more than you should force her to live! yours.
Couple of questions. How old is the relationship, and how far apart do you live from one another?
Honestly sounds like it may be a compatibility issue. If you want to see him more than he wants to see you and it’s hurting you then at the very least it’s time to have a heart-to-heart about it.
Just let him know how you feel and see how he responds. If it’s not important enough for him to make more of an effort for your happiness then you know it’s probably time to move on.
Exactly. It’s quite possible he’s had a psychotic break. Tell the other people in his life, his friends family what’s going on, ask everyone to help him get evaluated.
This is very important OP, do not worry about your “relationship”. Because when he comes out of this, assuming he gets help, he will not see this as a relationship problem. I can’t really explain it, but I have seen it. It’s like time stops for them.
This situation of being together but not together should not even be a thing. Decide to be in relationship or just go your separate ways for good. It's kinda immature.
You guys need to have a conversation about what is happening here and what yall's expectations are going forward.
Wow, to hear those words come from my wife would be fantastic or just some simple sign of appreciation. My wife, doesn’t criticize my cleaning but she definitely doesn’t do her fair share of the housework and we have kidszzzz!!!. A meal, and my favorite show? Damn…. I needed to see this post. OP your wife has no right to criticize your efforts around the house, I’m unsure how that makes her feel any less “guilty” for not being able to contribute as much as you do.
I think it doesn't matter what you want or how you feel about it because he is going to move in with her, Op.
She is his “best friend” that he fantasized about and he finally got her in bed. Bet you dollars to donuts, he will be going back to that well.
Ima very romantic person,and I go out of my way everyday to make her feel better and acts of kindness. I'm more hurt that she thinks my thoughts are stupid.
Honestly you should BUT i think it's better to wait. Wait till you meet him again and confirm it or see more symptoms so you can confidently let your sister know
On another note, you’re wearing glow in the dark rings after the first day of piercing? I’m not an expert, but I have an ex and friends who got it done, and if I remember correctly, you’re supposed to wear a metal bar (titanium if I remember correctly) for damn near half a year while they heal. I’d go get a second opinion on them if I were you. You don’t want an infection in such a sensitive area.
I’m sorry, you’re 23 dating a 36 year old? Just curious… why???
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I felt so rambling already, but there are things I do enjoy very much about her, and she still feels like home, and my best friend in many ways. But we can't go more than a day or two without these explosions. I guess you are right, I'm not getting anything out of it anymore, I think I just keep hoping it will change and she will see that she's had some faults here too and we could work through them and get back to where we were. But it seems increasingly unlikely.
Thanks for the insight and good advice 🙂
Girl: has one ex (that we know of) at 31 yo and he just happens to be a PoS
Guy: “Oh Lawd!.. Her promiscuous past!..” faints
Husband needs to take HIS ego out of this. That’s the source of this entire conflict. I can’t imagine why anyone would stop their spouse having a nice gift even if they themselves can’t afford to give it.
Do you usually get blackout drunk? Are you usually walking around when you do? Part of your personal work after this should be to examine your drinking habits.
There might be some other relationship issue you want to address separate from this
Only you can say how much you wanted to be with this girl.
I don’t want to tell you what you experienced but have you considered that you were assaulted? Did you engage with her or were you passed out when she started?
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We are both living with our parents. He doesn’t have a ‘plan’ as of now other than working so he has some more money to figure something out.
Break up. Move on. Find someone who appreciates you and listens to you. Be glad it only lasted two years. Easier said than done, however, don’t tie the know. You’re questioning it because your nervous system and brain wants to save you. This person is unsafe for you and toxic.
It's cute the way you keep yelling “I'M LEAVING” and then stomp back in here in those some oversized boots to flail wildly again. You have not made a single point or argument yet, you're just screeching nude takes at the top of your lungs. Which, again from a casual glance at your post history, seems like the only thing you do.
You know who else is full of poorly thought out hot takes? Toddlers. I'm just saying the similarities are really piling up.
bit*h I might! 😉
I wholeheartedly agree. I don't want to be anyone's ' 6 out 10 people I asked voted for you '
Is he too naive to realise that she only wants him now he’s unavailable and will drop him like a bad habit if he runs to her?
You have broken up with him, and now he is stalking you.
Call the police.
divorce her. she wasnt ready for marriage and is treating this like a college fling
I would never dream of going through his phone, but this is honestly grade A advice. I’m probably going to pretend that I didn’t learn about it and that he doesn’t just not want my nudes, but anyone else’s in the world either. Thanks!
Tell him that. Sit down and try to keep calm about it and tell him “When you say that you think I'm not attracted to you, it hurts me because I am attracted to you. I feel like you are blaming me and not supporting me as I try to work through the issues. It doesn't help and it makes me feel worse”.
Look, I would leave someone if they ever acted like this once. If you are dead set on solving this, she does not get to drink ever again.
Don't be a target, you don't know the truth. She's married. Control yourself or transfer. BTW, it's been 5 months.
No.
But.
You've talked about it with her.
She's not changing.
You're getting dinged up every 15 minutes or so you're together so…
Honestly I'd keep some physical distance for a bit. It's passive aggressive, but maybe it will make her more mindful of her movements if you feel like you need distance in order to not get hit.
Honestly, if it's happening with the frequency that you say it is, she may be doing at least some of this on purpose.
Should I just let this go now that he’s made an effort?
An effort to what? I see no effort from him here.
This will not be one singular big talk. It’s more likely that you’ll be having talks for the next little while. I’ve had “big talks” that were actually two or three talks and that was only over one thing; if you’ve let things stockpile then there will be a LOT to unpack so try not to do it all at once.
Write down some stuff you want to talk about so you don’t forget. Choose a couple more pressing issues and focus on those.
Try to remember to be curious, not defensive. It is okay to have fucked up. You’re having this convo not to prove that you’re actually innocent, but to admit that you may have done some stuff to hurt your partner and to tell your partner that they have hurt you. This doesn’t make you bad people: it makes you human.
What you’re offering each other during these discussions is a gift. It is a gift to tell people about how you want to be treated and how you want the future to look. That is info that you give someone only if you want them to keep being in your life. If it hurts to hear about your shortcomings, remind yourself that she is telling them to you because she knows you can do better and wants to see you improve.
This is TOUGH. It may help to have an impartial third person present; couples therapy can provide this if you have access to that. Because things may get heated (emotions are nude to manage sometimes) and it helps to have a third person to keep things grounded and remind you two that you are safe.
Stare at her blanky and say, let's normalise context.
Because honestly, the stuff you're saying is things I'll randomly see on social media so might as well use the standard response people give when someone states something assuming everyone has the same background knowledge or interests.
I think what I was trying to say about the children if all feelings are lost for her , it might be a better solution to just seperrate and we make arrangements for the kids … staying together not having feelings and contining to fight everyday might not be a good solution just bcos of the kids. I don't know I'm not a therapist that's why I was asking what's the best way for her to be happy .btw I have encourage her to see a therapist and she agreed that she needs to see one to heal but as of now nothing yet . I don't know whatver can lessens the pain as much as possible might be the way to go . I myself need a therapist and I've told her that
He showed himself as a cheater. Sorry you were forced to see it sooner than you were ready.
I’m bi and no, this hasn’t happened to me, because if you’ve agreed to not have sex outside the relationship, that includes people of any and all sexes/genders. If your “urges” get so strong that you can’t keep yourself from cheating…then don’t be in a monogamous relationship. Seriously, it is that easy.
You need to give up on your girlfriend and realise that you blew it, with only yourself to blame. Then go off and do all the exploration you need, until you are actually ready for a committed relationship or maybe have realised that ethical nonmonogamy is what you want. However, you have really screwed this up. Your logic of opening up the relationship being the first step to break up, while happily cheating behind her back, completely escapes me. You can’t even promise her to be faithful now, because you claim yourself that you can’t resist your “urges” – and considering you also mention other women in your list of urges, I’d claim that being bi has absolutely nothing to do with it.
Just do your exploration and seriously work on your self reflection. You purposefully hurt the hell out of a woman you claim to love, because you are horny. Just think that through.
Whatever you saw, it ain't there anymore, fuck these karma farmers ?
Seems rude but maybe after 8 years you should either A) know that he's like this or B) cut him some slack if he has done a lot for you before. I mean 8 years…it's ok to be annoyed but what do you think reddit is gonna say? Lolol “DUMP HIM THAT'S A RED FLAG” lol c'mon this a minor annoyance it's not a major relationship issue
You ever heard of lying by omission? Bc that’s exactly what she did.
Not relevant but I’ll never understand people insisting something that sounds unrealistic is an elaborate Reddit lie. Is your life so boring you assume everyone else also has the time for that!
Oh dude my ex was one of them and I was lucky that it wasn’t too long of a relationship, otherwise I can definitely see how his addiction issues and explosive temper would have left my self esteem in the gutter. As it was, he was horribly addicted, extremely manipulative, and constantly insinuating that I wasn’t his “type” because he was into “young milfs who do anal”. Puke. Ironically, I left him and everything in my life improved! Found my soulmate, we are having a bebe, my debt is gone (helps to not be the only one paying bills!), my mental health is stable, and my self esteem is good. Men like that are so devoid of any sense of self and belonging that they make it their mission to destroy the people closest to them so they can feel “better” than someone. It’s so pathetic and sad. I’m glad I got away and I hope every woman, sister, mother, and friend who deals with one of these douchebags can do the same for herself.
I would be more tolerant of your husband's behavior except:
1) You're currently in the middle of reconciling after a separation. There was EVER a time that he should be stepping up, it's now.
2) You have been second place to his best friend in the past and he doesn't seem to think there's anything wrong with that.
3) The shushing mines that he was going to do what he wanted to do and hide it from you. That's not a good look; I have to wonder what other stuff has even up to/ hiding?
I think it's fair for you to reconsider this reconciliation and if you don't you need to lay down really specifically what you expect from him for this to work
You are allowing his threat to keep you bonded to him. If you ACTUALLY believe him then you’d call emergency services on his threat and inform his whole family so they can take care of him and his children.
But you would rather put YOURSELF in the position of the one person in the whole world that keeps him from taking his life. I’m not saying you intentionally are doing this but if you look at yourself deeply, you’ll find it.
Leave him, record him while you do. Call services on him if he makes the threat again.
The sister got pregnant right away after cheating so it's not like she could have warned her anyway. The whole family makes no sense.
Why ask for advice and ignore the best?
What should I do?
I don't want to scare you OP, but I would start looking out for signs of drug use.
My ex was a heroin user and I would frequently find blood spatter in our bathroom, on the interior roof of our car, and other places. When I finally caught on to what he had been doing, he admitted he was shooting up in those locations and I pieced it together.
There’s a reason he doesn’t want you with her and at this point, I don’t think it’s because he thinks you’re too good for her etc. it’s because he likes her.
You should just call off the wedding because frankly you don’t deserve her.
Neither of you are wrong, but differences in financial values can be difficult to get past. My husband and I aren't so different from you guys.. I've always been a big saver, he's always been more of a spender. But we've also been able to listen to and help each other… If it weren't for me, we wouldn't have some fairly substantial savings. If it weren't for him, well there are all sorts of luxuries I very much enjoy that I'd probably be passing up.
For me, there's also an anxiety component. Spending a lot of money can be legitimately scary to me. Granted we don't make anywhere near as much as you guys, I don't know if I'd still feel that way if we made as much money as you. But it's something to consider.
What is it that she's saving for? Do you know? Is there anything you actually need that you can't afford? Saving for retirement is great of course, but living in the moment is important too. I don't think it's necessarily wise to put all your eggs into a basket that isn't really going to benefit you for 20-30 years. Don't live like you're going to die tomorrow but don't live like the future is a guarantee either, if you get what I mean. It's okay to spend money on things that give you joy right now, even if they're just “toys”.
I do think the bottom line is that you need a budget, though. It doesn't mean that you have to “put any sort of cap on our individual discretionary spending”, but it does mean you would both have a certain amount of money of your own to spend however you want, and that's important. It doesn't sound like she wants that because obviously she doesn't want you spending money on things like this, but you're different people with different views on money and life and what brings you joy. She shouldn't be forcing you to live! her way any more than you should force her to live! yours.
Couple of questions. How old is the relationship, and how far apart do you live from one another?
Honestly sounds like it may be a compatibility issue. If you want to see him more than he wants to see you and it’s hurting you then at the very least it’s time to have a heart-to-heart about it.
Just let him know how you feel and see how he responds. If it’s not important enough for him to make more of an effort for your happiness then you know it’s probably time to move on.
She’s cheating.
I think it could be used to “keep” women too
Exactly. It’s quite possible he’s had a psychotic break. Tell the other people in his life, his friends family what’s going on, ask everyone to help him get evaluated.
This is very important OP, do not worry about your “relationship”. Because when he comes out of this, assuming he gets help, he will not see this as a relationship problem. I can’t really explain it, but I have seen it. It’s like time stops for them.
This situation of being together but not together should not even be a thing. Decide to be in relationship or just go your separate ways for good. It's kinda immature.
You guys need to have a conversation about what is happening here and what yall's expectations are going forward.
M8, you’re still seeing this stuff in the START of a relationship. If she couldn’t hide it for that long, think about what other stuff will come out
Wow, to hear those words come from my wife would be fantastic or just some simple sign of appreciation. My wife, doesn’t criticize my cleaning but she definitely doesn’t do her fair share of the housework and we have kidszzzz!!!. A meal, and my favorite show? Damn…. I needed to see this post. OP your wife has no right to criticize your efforts around the house, I’m unsure how that makes her feel any less “guilty” for not being able to contribute as much as you do.
Is the age difference bad? I turn 20 sept he turns 24 in dec?
Too much of a good thing can feel like a stalker thing.
I’m afraid you’re in that boat with the rest of us and OP is the captain.