If he feels like he doesn't need to officially ask you to be his boyfriend, he will not officially require your approval for any self-improvement he may or may not do. I'm 29M and respect amongst each other is a big thing. If you are 100% sure he listens to you or will listen to you in the future (e.g. doesn't make the same mistakes over and over after its already been told) it will never happen.
Always go with the opposite of the ultimatum. So dog. Because if you choose your girlfriend, you'll resent her and you'll lose her too. You're not even that old. You have plenty of time to find someone else who won't pull ultimatums on you. Don't settle for bullshit.
If this was a man threatening to break up with a woman because of a lack of sex the comments would be flooded with “just leave him you’re worth more than that” but I’ve seen quite a few not telling you to do this, break up with her she isn’t worth your time if she can’t support you with a medical condition what’s she going to be like in the future? Break up with her and make a doctors appointment
Trust me, I'm not one to mess with her relationship, especially with him also being a friend. I have talked to her about the relationship, and she says she doesn't know. Even if she said she wanted to be with me I don't know if I'd want that. She is cute as can be but I don't want to risk what we have unless it's for sure.
These people aren't worth your time. They met at your party, and announced their engagement there. Your friendship obviously doesn't mean that much to them to exclude you and talk behind your back instead of talking to you.
It depends a lot on what you want from the outcome. If you are just going to break up, it doesn’t really matter. Ghost her, send her screenshots and say bye, whatever.
But if you think you might want to try salvaging this how you confront matters. It needs to be in a way that will encourage her to come completely clean with no trickle truth. And with no shifting of blame.
So, I suggest looking at u/throwyouaway52’s profile. Look at her post “tonight he finds out I know”. Look at the comments too. Then read her next post, “it went better than expected”. She got a complete disclosure and remorse. Things she could work with in terms of possibly reconciling.
You want your evidence hidden. You want to sit her down and calmly explain that you know what she’s been doing and this is her one opportunity to come clean. And that she should not lie or hide because you’ll know and that will end it. Do not let her know how you know. 52 told her husband that wasn’t important when he wanted to know how she knew.
Sis. Let me tell you about my day as a single woman.
I wake up in the morning, with my two dogs and two cats cuddled up to me.
I make tea and breakfast for myself, feed my dogs. There is only the dishes of one person to do, so it only takes a moment.
I go to work, I come home. No mess has been created in my absence. I get myself my favorite snack, because I have plenty, I am the only one who eats them, after all.
My dogs come with me to work, so no need to walk them, I just feed them. I make dinner. It's food I like, with plenty of veggies that no one will complain about.
I sit on the couch with my dogs and boot up my favorite video game. My fluffy cat sits on my lap and watches. I play until I don't feel like it anymore. I take the dogs out for a quick potty and make sure my chickens are all tucked in for the night, then I head to bed. All 4 animals migrate to the bed.
There is no arguing. No mess created by anyone else. I have only my own dishes, only my own laundry. I'm not forever cleaning up the sink from someone shaving or pee off the floor from where someone “missed” the toilet. My life is peaceful and full of companionship. On my days off I can go to the bookstore and then the coffee shop, sit by the water fountain downtown and sip my coffee for an hour if it pleases me to do so. I can go to the art gallery. I can stay home and play video games all day.
Single life has a lot to offer. What does this man offer you? How does he make your life better? Does he offer the same peace and contentment you could have simply with yourself?
If my bf did this, i would immediately assume they had a quickie! What else are they supposed to do in her flat? He disrespected you upfront! Its a different story if you were not there (which is also not good!) but you were in the same place and would just disappear! You yourself felt the sympathy of the person who all of sudden approached you. Wake up darling you deserve better!
A lie by omission is still technically a lie, but using that to justify coercive rape…I don't think the lie holds value anyways because they already agreed to be child free. Why would fertility matter or be brought up in that situation.
I don't remember the title but there was one post on Reddit this past Fall I think. Dad did a paternity test and the child (was not a baby but 4 or 5 years old I think)wasn't him. Dad accused Mom of cheating. Mom had a maternity test done and the hospital screwed up BIG time.
Mom and Dad didn't know what to do, the hospital was trying to find their child. I really wished I kept the link.
So is there a chance that it isn’t his? I think it’s strange that your comment omitted this. Paternity tests don’t generally lie unless they’ve been tampered with.
To be honest if you want to try make the relationship as it stands work (other options like being in an open relationship do exist) that’s going to involve both you and her working to understand her asexuality. Since knowing exactly what the situation is for you two is how your going to figure out if this is a relationship you can continue in. (side note but medication including birth control and mental health issues can lead to a lower sex drive)
A very important thing to ask about is how she thought about sex in the past when she was choosing to have it more, it sounds stupid but why a particular asexual chooses to have sex informs a lot of how sex is handled by them.
So what she's saying is she knew she was helping someone cheat and has no problem with it. This means she would have no problem doing it again. I would not want to be in a relationship with someone like that. Kinks aside, this is a moral issue I don't agree with. Smeagol did it once, he can do it again.
It's not my grandmother's opinions, it's her attempting to control what I do. If all she did was voice what she thought that would be one thing but if I don't act the way she wants she gets incredibly mad and will try to involve my mom and my oldest aunt. For example, I was wearing a white skirt that goes past the knee the other day with thick fleece stockings underneath. The first thing she said to me when I got home was “Do you know think? Who other than you is wearing clothes like that right now when it's still cold” … it was 23 degrees C or 73.4 degrees F that day and I was actually SWEATING in my outfit.
People are being blunt and honest, but they’re not being mean. Just because they’re pointing out what you already know, doesn’t mean that they’re being mean. They’re being honest.
Refusing to believe the kids are his seems pretty much like rejection. He assumed she'd get an abortion, he didn't beg her to keep them. It's pretty clear that he didn't want kids.
He commented on the current state of the vagina, didn't even call it ugly or anything.
The sensitivity here is off the charts. Tbf I would even more pissed off if my 25 YEARS OLD girlfriend shared such a benign misunderstanding on Reddit for everyone to call me an asshole.
Ignore the family and support your son. By trying to ask him how to bring them around, you’re saying that their understanding is more important than his feelings of how they betrayed him. Everyone gets to make their own decisions. They’ve made theirs and you’re making yours. There is no straddling the fence here. Either you’re solidly on his side – or you’re on theirs.
As that old songs goes, “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.” His family has chosen to totally cut him off. By refusing to decide between them and instead trying to play negotiator, you unconsciously choosing to back them and make him defend himself.
Forget the questions. Don’t mention the rest of the family to him unless he brings them up.
Then he should not use “My mom said…”, and he should own it.
What is your deal here? At some point, parents have to let their kids be adults. If they continually try to solve all their problems, their kids will never learn how to do it themselves. Advice is one thing, but directives are something else.
Parents aren't around forever. Teach your kids independence and self-sufficiency. And boundaries are a good, healthy thing.
This reads like a call back and a confirmation agenda post rather than it actually happened. A confirmation that porn stars are people too and deserve love and respect (which of course they do, but not with pretend stories)
Op being so cool with it is… odd. The original post was basically telling us he was ok with it, and how to break the subject, not a single trepidation at all that his soon to be wife was railed by 100's of men on camera, that he watched… not a single issue with her not telling him about it either.
Wat is even more disturbing than the claps and cheers for a fake story, and something NO ONE calls out, is that there is no mention about how something so significant to 99% of men was being withheld from him. No one seemed to be bothered by that either.
99% of the comments here are like “what a wonderful life you'll have together! great communicators!” But in real life 99% of men would be asking different question and having different concerns about this situation. You know it and I know it.
You are all falling all over each other to post a positive comment. (which, let's be honest, it not something we normally do here)
You don’t get to decide when the victim of your actions heals. That’s up to her, you need to be supportive and patient bc that’s the consequences of your actions!
I appreciate your lengthy responses. First I want to explain that I am not saying that those small disagreements makes me want to drink or smoke it’s when he escalates those situations into a big fight and then we aren’t talking and there is major tension in the house. That uneasy stressful feeling of not being okay with my husband is when I used to take the stress away by smoking or drinking and I don’t want to do that anymore. When I try to address these things by talking to him and ask him to just talk it out he can never do that it always ends up with him being aggressive and turning something that shouldn’t be a big fight into a big fight. That is what I am saying I cannot keep doing right now. I can’t always be fighting with my husband over things that could simply be talked out.
I am taking accountability I know it’s not all him and that I alone am responsible for my sobriety. I have been able to not drink or smoke through all these things but I am saying that I still think about it. And im worried staying in a situation like this one right now I will eventually break.
I begin to apologize regardless of whether I think I am right or wrong because again he escalates, starts yelling, cutting me off, etc. and then I am like “woah okay please stop yelling, I’m sorry, this shouldn’t be a big fight let’s let it go or just discuss it” I am a person that absolutely hates being at odds with the people I love, I can’t focus on anything when things are not okay so I try everything to deescalate the situation.
And I have said he uses he refuses to stop smoking.
Putting ingredients in to prep bowls is pretty standard cooking behavior.
Are you really on here complaining that your wife, the mother of your children, takes too long to prep and cook your meals and uses prep bowls? You poor man. She uses a colander to drain noodles????????? Outrageous. I can see why you are upset.
But the lower earner is able to support themselves. It's the higher earner who would be sacrificing some of the 'finer things' that their very hot work and success has afforded them.
It sounds like you're suggesting that people should not have relationships with someone if there is an income disparity. So how much of a disparity is acceptable in your opinion?
It’s not that it’s just from what I know about her, trust me I’m not trying to jump to conclusions about oh she really loves me and all that junk. I’m not tryna be a delusional guy that has a fictional relationship is his head with her.
Sounds like he’s finished the relationship and frankly good because he is TRASH. He’s cheated on you TWICE and treated you like shit after and now is just ghosting you?! Why on earth would you let this spineless worm crawl back into your life? No not all men are like this. Yes there are better ones. No you don’t deserve this shit. No he isn’t going to change because he doesn’t give a fuck about you. Sorry. Harsh but true. Practice some selfcare here and start putting you and your needs first!
Ahh, okay. If he chose to drop out of college, I’d expect him to have something career oriented lined up. He sounds like a mooch and you deserve better.
Normal people don't go round saying they're going to murder you.
You can also have a mental illness and not be evil and want to hurt people deliberately. Don't let that be his excuse, cos it isn't one.
Go now while you still can. Leave a trail of potential evidence until you are safe. Tell everyone you can trust. Go to shops and use your card, stand under cctv, walk past a neighbour with a Ring doorbell…
Please don't go back to jer she seems to see herself as above you and your ex and that's not kool. Just because she looks good doesn't mean her heart is good she seems kinda shallow.
You should work on you and be who you are happy being nothing more and definitely nothing less.
There are so many posts on this and it’s always the end of the relationship. But what do we know? They’re all concerned about using the problem as a way of ‘ getting them back’. The post stating the threesome was pretty nauseating tbh.
Not the mention he would have most likely been drinking as well. It could have been a grand if he had a big night. ? Selfish.
If he feels like he doesn't need to officially ask you to be his boyfriend, he will not officially require your approval for any self-improvement he may or may not do. I'm 29M and respect amongst each other is a big thing. If you are 100% sure he listens to you or will listen to you in the future (e.g. doesn't make the same mistakes over and over after its already been told) it will never happen.
What would his reaction be if you were to take a weekend off with friends one of whom you’ve been with?
This would be a HELL NO for me. You are perfectly normal to have severe problems with this! Totally inappropriate in a monogamous relationship.
You clearly don't know much of anything. Good luck.
Always go with the opposite of the ultimatum. So dog. Because if you choose your girlfriend, you'll resent her and you'll lose her too. You're not even that old. You have plenty of time to find someone else who won't pull ultimatums on you. Don't settle for bullshit.
If this was a man threatening to break up with a woman because of a lack of sex the comments would be flooded with “just leave him you’re worth more than that” but I’ve seen quite a few not telling you to do this, break up with her she isn’t worth your time if she can’t support you with a medical condition what’s she going to be like in the future? Break up with her and make a doctors appointment
Trust me, I'm not one to mess with her relationship, especially with him also being a friend. I have talked to her about the relationship, and she says she doesn't know. Even if she said she wanted to be with me I don't know if I'd want that. She is cute as can be but I don't want to risk what we have unless it's for sure.
i mean yeah but i just meant the next text would be that i got the hint and wish her the best… meaning we won’t ever talk/see each other again.
Is there any court mandated visitation?
I wish this was in AITA
These people aren't worth your time. They met at your party, and announced their engagement there. Your friendship obviously doesn't mean that much to them to exclude you and talk behind your back instead of talking to you.
It depends a lot on what you want from the outcome. If you are just going to break up, it doesn’t really matter. Ghost her, send her screenshots and say bye, whatever.
But if you think you might want to try salvaging this how you confront matters. It needs to be in a way that will encourage her to come completely clean with no trickle truth. And with no shifting of blame.
So, I suggest looking at u/throwyouaway52’s profile. Look at her post “tonight he finds out I know”. Look at the comments too. Then read her next post, “it went better than expected”. She got a complete disclosure and remorse. Things she could work with in terms of possibly reconciling.
You want your evidence hidden. You want to sit her down and calmly explain that you know what she’s been doing and this is her one opportunity to come clean. And that she should not lie or hide because you’ll know and that will end it. Do not let her know how you know. 52 told her husband that wasn’t important when he wanted to know how she knew.
Good luck.
I truly believe he would rather wear crusty, two week old boxer briefs than use a washing machine
He is a selfish scum, at least he asked first, but I would not consider him a friend thow…
If one of these responses don't workout, just reload your save file from the last checkpoint.
Think about this. Instead of wasting time with him you could be in the beginning of a new relationship where you are treated like a Queen.
Or concentrating on yourself and finding out why you don’t think you’re worthy.
Sis. Let me tell you about my day as a single woman.
I wake up in the morning, with my two dogs and two cats cuddled up to me.
I make tea and breakfast for myself, feed my dogs. There is only the dishes of one person to do, so it only takes a moment.
I go to work, I come home. No mess has been created in my absence. I get myself my favorite snack, because I have plenty, I am the only one who eats them, after all.
My dogs come with me to work, so no need to walk them, I just feed them. I make dinner. It's food I like, with plenty of veggies that no one will complain about.
I sit on the couch with my dogs and boot up my favorite video game. My fluffy cat sits on my lap and watches. I play until I don't feel like it anymore. I take the dogs out for a quick potty and make sure my chickens are all tucked in for the night, then I head to bed. All 4 animals migrate to the bed.
There is no arguing. No mess created by anyone else. I have only my own dishes, only my own laundry. I'm not forever cleaning up the sink from someone shaving or pee off the floor from where someone “missed” the toilet. My life is peaceful and full of companionship. On my days off I can go to the bookstore and then the coffee shop, sit by the water fountain downtown and sip my coffee for an hour if it pleases me to do so. I can go to the art gallery. I can stay home and play video games all day.
Single life has a lot to offer. What does this man offer you? How does he make your life better? Does he offer the same peace and contentment you could have simply with yourself?
I need to get out of this. This won't turn out well at all.
The waves of fantasy crash upon the rocks of reality, yes. Gtfo man.
If my bf did this, i would immediately assume they had a quickie! What else are they supposed to do in her flat? He disrespected you upfront! Its a different story if you were not there (which is also not good!) but you were in the same place and would just disappear! You yourself felt the sympathy of the person who all of sudden approached you. Wake up darling you deserve better!
A lie by omission is still technically a lie, but using that to justify coercive rape…I don't think the lie holds value anyways because they already agreed to be child free. Why would fertility matter or be brought up in that situation.
I don't remember the title but there was one post on Reddit this past Fall I think. Dad did a paternity test and the child (was not a baby but 4 or 5 years old I think)wasn't him. Dad accused Mom of cheating. Mom had a maternity test done and the hospital screwed up BIG time.
Mom and Dad didn't know what to do, the hospital was trying to find their child. I really wished I kept the link.
OK, but he is accusing her of infidelity. She shouldn't have to “ask” him to support that claim.
So is there a chance that it isn’t his? I think it’s strange that your comment omitted this. Paternity tests don’t generally lie unless they’ve been tampered with.
To be honest if you want to try make the relationship as it stands work (other options like being in an open relationship do exist) that’s going to involve both you and her working to understand her asexuality. Since knowing exactly what the situation is for you two is how your going to figure out if this is a relationship you can continue in. (side note but medication including birth control and mental health issues can lead to a lower sex drive)
A very important thing to ask about is how she thought about sex in the past when she was choosing to have it more, it sounds stupid but why a particular asexual chooses to have sex informs a lot of how sex is handled by them.
Totally agree with you! I’m not even sure if OP knows what he wants.
You could just get over yourself and go.
So what she's saying is she knew she was helping someone cheat and has no problem with it. This means she would have no problem doing it again. I would not want to be in a relationship with someone like that. Kinks aside, this is a moral issue I don't agree with. Smeagol did it once, he can do it again.
It's not my grandmother's opinions, it's her attempting to control what I do. If all she did was voice what she thought that would be one thing but if I don't act the way she wants she gets incredibly mad and will try to involve my mom and my oldest aunt. For example, I was wearing a white skirt that goes past the knee the other day with thick fleece stockings underneath. The first thing she said to me when I got home was “Do you know think? Who other than you is wearing clothes like that right now when it's still cold” … it was 23 degrees C or 73.4 degrees F that day and I was actually SWEATING in my outfit.
You are way too needy for a long-distance relationship.
Break up, stay broken up, and move on.
No, I don't think she's married. I'm really not angry at the situation, just one of his belongings that could be sold/given to donation.
Jesus CHRIST. That’s a lawsuit if your company does nothing about this.
Well if you have anything documented or in writing the courts are at your disposal. If you don’t then be prepared to take the L and life lesson.
People are being blunt and honest, but they’re not being mean. Just because they’re pointing out what you already know, doesn’t mean that they’re being mean. They’re being honest.
Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
She will baby trap you one way or another.
Stop having sex with her.
Move on.
Wouldn’t a spreadsheet showing all the costs and expenses explain?
She wants to see you as dedicated to saving. This might be a good reflection that her intensity doesn’t match your own.
Are you considering marriage? Maybe you should be considering that level of commitment before sharing a house.
Why do you need a new house when this one is already owned?
As a side Warning. Video games are not a benefit to a relationship. It’s usually a time drain and escapism. It’s rarely a gateway to success.
How long are you away for and how often? I can understand not wanting to be with someone who travels a lot, like a part time ldr
Refusing to believe the kids are his seems pretty much like rejection. He assumed she'd get an abortion, he didn't beg her to keep them. It's pretty clear that he didn't want kids.
She tries to get a rise out of ex by discussing feelings for OP.
He commented on the current state of the vagina, didn't even call it ugly or anything.
The sensitivity here is off the charts. Tbf I would even more pissed off if my 25 YEARS OLD girlfriend shared such a benign misunderstanding on Reddit for everyone to call me an asshole.
Ignore the family and support your son. By trying to ask him how to bring them around, you’re saying that their understanding is more important than his feelings of how they betrayed him. Everyone gets to make their own decisions. They’ve made theirs and you’re making yours. There is no straddling the fence here. Either you’re solidly on his side – or you’re on theirs.
As that old songs goes, “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.” His family has chosen to totally cut him off. By refusing to decide between them and instead trying to play negotiator, you unconsciously choosing to back them and make him defend himself.
Forget the questions. Don’t mention the rest of the family to him unless he brings them up.
Good luck!
Take your time and talk about funny stuff and how much you both meant to each other…don't let anyone rush you. Sorry for your loss.
Then he should not use “My mom said…”, and he should own it.
What is your deal here? At some point, parents have to let their kids be adults. If they continually try to solve all their problems, their kids will never learn how to do it themselves. Advice is one thing, but directives are something else.
Parents aren't around forever. Teach your kids independence and self-sufficiency. And boundaries are a good, healthy thing.
This reads like a call back and a confirmation agenda post rather than it actually happened. A confirmation that porn stars are people too and deserve love and respect (which of course they do, but not with pretend stories)
Op being so cool with it is… odd. The original post was basically telling us he was ok with it, and how to break the subject, not a single trepidation at all that his soon to be wife was railed by 100's of men on camera, that he watched… not a single issue with her not telling him about it either.
Wat is even more disturbing than the claps and cheers for a fake story, and something NO ONE calls out, is that there is no mention about how something so significant to 99% of men was being withheld from him. No one seemed to be bothered by that either.
99% of the comments here are like “what a wonderful life you'll have together! great communicators!” But in real life 99% of men would be asking different question and having different concerns about this situation. You know it and I know it.
You are all falling all over each other to post a positive comment. (which, let's be honest, it not something we normally do here)
IMO this is 100% agenda and did not happen.
This one made me laugh. Thank you.
You don’t get to decide when the victim of your actions heals. That’s up to her, you need to be supportive and patient bc that’s the consequences of your actions!
A good partner doesn’t make jokes like that. He’s not joking
I don't think she would be the one telling them. I think it would be him or his wife.
I appreciate your lengthy responses. First I want to explain that I am not saying that those small disagreements makes me want to drink or smoke it’s when he escalates those situations into a big fight and then we aren’t talking and there is major tension in the house. That uneasy stressful feeling of not being okay with my husband is when I used to take the stress away by smoking or drinking and I don’t want to do that anymore. When I try to address these things by talking to him and ask him to just talk it out he can never do that it always ends up with him being aggressive and turning something that shouldn’t be a big fight into a big fight. That is what I am saying I cannot keep doing right now. I can’t always be fighting with my husband over things that could simply be talked out.
I am taking accountability I know it’s not all him and that I alone am responsible for my sobriety. I have been able to not drink or smoke through all these things but I am saying that I still think about it. And im worried staying in a situation like this one right now I will eventually break.
I begin to apologize regardless of whether I think I am right or wrong because again he escalates, starts yelling, cutting me off, etc. and then I am like “woah okay please stop yelling, I’m sorry, this shouldn’t be a big fight let’s let it go or just discuss it” I am a person that absolutely hates being at odds with the people I love, I can’t focus on anything when things are not okay so I try everything to deescalate the situation.
And I have said he uses he refuses to stop smoking.
Putting ingredients in to prep bowls is pretty standard cooking behavior.
Are you really on here complaining that your wife, the mother of your children, takes too long to prep and cook your meals and uses prep bowls? You poor man. She uses a colander to drain noodles????????? Outrageous. I can see why you are upset.
He’s an insecure asshole and needs some serious help.
Lose this idiot. This is not normal or healthy.
You both agreed to no strip clubs.
He's gone at least twice now. And then lied about.
You don't move past it. You break up.
Marry her
I assume this is her only totally insane behaviour? Or are there other massive red flags like this one?
I would be doing a quiet retreat out of her life, and than run?
But the lower earner is able to support themselves. It's the higher earner who would be sacrificing some of the 'finer things' that their very hot work and success has afforded them.
It sounds like you're suggesting that people should not have relationships with someone if there is an income disparity. So how much of a disparity is acceptable in your opinion?
Dude, just have your girl uploade picks of her kissing people on her accounts. All good..
It’s not that it’s just from what I know about her, trust me I’m not trying to jump to conclusions about oh she really loves me and all that junk. I’m not tryna be a delusional guy that has a fictional relationship is his head with her.
Sounds like he’s finished the relationship and frankly good because he is TRASH. He’s cheated on you TWICE and treated you like shit after and now is just ghosting you?! Why on earth would you let this spineless worm crawl back into your life? No not all men are like this. Yes there are better ones. No you don’t deserve this shit. No he isn’t going to change because he doesn’t give a fuck about you. Sorry. Harsh but true. Practice some selfcare here and start putting you and your needs first!
Yeah, here's the advice:
Get the call log Get evidence that you asked him to stop Speak to police If they do nothing, speak to a lawyer.
Ahh, okay. If he chose to drop out of college, I’d expect him to have something career oriented lined up. He sounds like a mooch and you deserve better.
Normal people don't go round saying they're going to murder you.
You can also have a mental illness and not be evil and want to hurt people deliberately. Don't let that be his excuse, cos it isn't one.
Go now while you still can. Leave a trail of potential evidence until you are safe. Tell everyone you can trust. Go to shops and use your card, stand under cctv, walk past a neighbour with a Ring doorbell…
Please don't go back to jer she seems to see herself as above you and your ex and that's not kool. Just because she looks good doesn't mean her heart is good she seems kinda shallow.
You should work on you and be who you are happy being nothing more and definitely nothing less.
Good luck! I hope whatever you do you are happy.
Women always know ?? I knew immediately after 5 years. He kept denying also so I had to check his phone behind his back.
There are so many posts on this and it’s always the end of the relationship. But what do we know? They’re all concerned about using the problem as a way of ‘ getting them back’. The post stating the threesome was pretty nauseating tbh.
He doesn't have rejection issues, your gut is right he's full crazy