1st reply on the current top comment says it absolutely best “Pressuring someone into swinging without well-defined, well-discussed boundaries and then accusing them of cheating because they didn’t swing the way he’d intended is at best very poorly done and at worst some manipulative bullshit.”
A concerning share of the other comments here are super annoying placing blame on her, as they “explain” -that since she talked to someone at this party she was pressured to go to and they agreed on something they were actually comfortable with- that she was “bringing in emotions, not just sex” and even going so far as to call it “emotional polyamory” when we straight up don’t know what they even talked about or whether she’s maintaining any sort of friendly banter much less an emotional connection with this dude outside of these events ??♀️
I can understand why the husband may be upset that she made a human connection that she also had sex with- rather than just being an object of his kinks that he could put aside to play with other people there, since let’s be real, not wanting to talk to her much about the new experience indicates this all over- but imo he actually has zero right to be (upset I mean) lmao
I have always been very insecure. As a child I was afraid of literally everything, then my insecurities made me developed anorexia as a teenager and so on. I feel like it’s just so deeply rooted in me.
The thing is that it’s getting even worse now. Having been dumped all my life I never expect men to stay or actually like me and always assume the worst. As I mentioned – I never say it but maybe it’s just an aura or vibe I give off haha? Is that even possible?
I think maybe you're too dependent on him and secretly he resents it? Or maybe you're overweight and he's not physically attracted to you and doesn't have the heart to tell you outright?
But yeah regardless I think what he said is pretty much a deal breaker. I'm sorry.
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True but one final conversation especially around the “you can never speak of this” is probably worthwhile. Considering in this conversation the dissolution of the relationship will be apart of it.
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You’re so young. Don’t waste your time with someone that clearly wants to step outside the relationship. Don’t agree to an open relationship if you’re not 100% on board.
I don’t think your relationship was a waste, it just served you during a certain time in your life. People grow and change. Maybe this is the start of you growing apart and moving onto different things. Enjoy college!
I also hope all of this isn’t real.. but I guess this is what happens after years and years of abuse.. you become blind and you start to think maybe its your fault.. Im in my bed rn shoulders, neck and wrist bruised up and all I can do is vent out here while I plan for my escape..
No, because it’s not because they’re married, it’s because they’re married to each other and work together. There’s a pretty large difference there. Non-fraternization policies are legal, and this would operate under similar lines of thinking. (Yes, I understand it isn’t the exact same so please don’t try to explain to me that non-fraternization policies refer to something slightly different). Your arguments gets disproven on the basis of sex as 2 other women (40% offered) are also buying the place and it effectively comes down to “a boss/owner of the company does NOT owe you anything in terms of career progression/raises unless written in a contract. Your argument of marital status also goes out the window as at least one of the managers offered was married, and more than likely, multiple were, probably even one of the women.
Even if every other person is offered a $10k raise PER MONTH and you’re not, that isn’t illegal. There’s no case here for discrimination. He made a choice in who to sell his business to. The fact that he picked one manager and not the other doesn’t mean it’s discrimination. Now, her husband absolutely should’ve brought it up, there’s clearly a difference in priorities there, but the issue isn’t a work one, it’s a relationship one, specifically a communication one. Now, if OP feels slighted enough she wants to quit, she’s more than allowed. Many would understand if that’s her position, but ultimately she isn’t owed the promotion of opportunity to buy the company. No judge will say she is entitled to it.
All you can do is be there for her let her cry, talk, scream at the stars if she needs too. Don’t tell her that it will get better. It never gets better just different.
Honestly, walking away when someone starts yelling is an excellent plan.
“We can and will have this conversation when you’ve regained your composure. I will not, however be subject to your abuse.”
Twice a month is way to often to have screaming fights. If he says “he can’t help it”, please call bullshit. If he couldn’t help it, he wouldn’t be able to hold a job and would likely be in jail. He has decided that exploding on you is perfectly fine. It’s not.
That's not a 'trick', that's reproductive coercion, and is a crime in many areas of the world.
It is assault.
He is removing your bodily autonomy, and your right to say no. “Trick” doesn't even begin to cover it.
You need to treat this as the serious matter that it is. This was deliberate and pre-meditated. Do NOT believe a word he says, I'm sure he is very good at trying to gloss over areas where you disagree.
Thank you so much, that’s reassuring to hear. He’s had issues with drugs in the past but nothing like this, I am glad that I’ve cut ties, I’m sure that over time things will feel easier it’s just a lot to process at the moment
You aren't comfortable with sharing her and being with anyone else is repugnant to you.
I would let her go. Like forever. Even if she changes her mind you know what she wants and you will always wonder when she decides to act on her desires.
I'm glad you've realized sometimes we don't notice things until the whole situation is laid out Infront I'm glad you aren't actually mad at her people just don't understand it's easy to gloss over things when reading and not fully read into the whole thing. Despite the pitchforks I hope you have a wonderful day ❤️.
I brought the incident up to her again, and she seemed pretty apologetic at first, but I struck a nerve when I tried to push past the incident itself and address why she was so angered by what I had said.
For some (in retrospect wildly naive) reason I had assumed “during oral” meant while he was eating her out. I now realize that definitely isnt whats happening cause there is no way this dude is eating her pussy for 20 mins lol
You are since you are married to her and make most of the money. I would delete your Reddit before her lawyer finds it and gives you the fucking you’ve been desperate to find
Go back to therapy ASAP. Your issues are bubbling to the surface again and you need to deal with them now instead of after messing up his or someone else's life.
He might just use the bar of soap but no cloth which is a whole lotta yuck. He may not be truly washing well enough. Get in the shower with him. Maybe you can pinpoint it.
you need therapy. so badly.
Really hope it's something like that
Yeah true thank you
Could be premenstrual dysphoric disorder
Sounds toxic to me, break up before she actually slaps you
Leave. This violent behavior will escalate.
Dont do it. Tell him you are not interested in being tracked.
1st reply on the current top comment says it absolutely best “Pressuring someone into swinging without well-defined, well-discussed boundaries and then accusing them of cheating because they didn’t swing the way he’d intended is at best very poorly done and at worst some manipulative bullshit.”
A concerning share of the other comments here are super annoying placing blame on her, as they “explain” -that since she talked to someone at this party she was pressured to go to and they agreed on something they were actually comfortable with- that she was “bringing in emotions, not just sex” and even going so far as to call it “emotional polyamory” when we straight up don’t know what they even talked about or whether she’s maintaining any sort of friendly banter much less an emotional connection with this dude outside of these events ??♀️
I can understand why the husband may be upset that she made a human connection that she also had sex with- rather than just being an object of his kinks that he could put aside to play with other people there, since let’s be real, not wanting to talk to her much about the new experience indicates this all over- but imo he actually has zero right to be (upset I mean) lmao
I have always been very insecure. As a child I was afraid of literally everything, then my insecurities made me developed anorexia as a teenager and so on. I feel like it’s just so deeply rooted in me.
The thing is that it’s getting even worse now. Having been dumped all my life I never expect men to stay or actually like me and always assume the worst. As I mentioned – I never say it but maybe it’s just an aura or vibe I give off haha? Is that even possible?
The age difference, the manipulation, the sexual blackmail
^ this
Oop you're right. Still, it's insane to expect someone to spend $1000+ because you're insecure. His dick has been inside other people as well.
Ummm….this is as good as it gets. You should get out now before you waste any more time.
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Dunno. Ask op.
Something is really off about your relationship.
I think maybe you're too dependent on him and secretly he resents it? Or maybe you're overweight and he's not physically attracted to you and doesn't have the heart to tell you outright?
But yeah regardless I think what he said is pretty much a deal breaker. I'm sorry.
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Why would she waste time on you when you weren’t interested? She moved on, do the same
True but one final conversation especially around the “you can never speak of this” is probably worthwhile. Considering in this conversation the dissolution of the relationship will be apart of it.
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You’re so young. Don’t waste your time with someone that clearly wants to step outside the relationship. Don’t agree to an open relationship if you’re not 100% on board.
I don’t think your relationship was a waste, it just served you during a certain time in your life. People grow and change. Maybe this is the start of you growing apart and moving onto different things. Enjoy college!
I also hope all of this isn’t real.. but I guess this is what happens after years and years of abuse.. you become blind and you start to think maybe its your fault.. Im in my bed rn shoulders, neck and wrist bruised up and all I can do is vent out here while I plan for my escape..
I mean yeah that’s the impression I get everytime it happens. But why even say he’ll call me back? Just cuz he feels like he has to?
I know stage 5 clinger ?♀️I’m just going to delete him. Only reason I pursued it, was because how we was to me when I was younger.
It’s a troll post, the dude’s POV was up a few days agoz
No, because it’s not because they’re married, it’s because they’re married to each other and work together. There’s a pretty large difference there. Non-fraternization policies are legal, and this would operate under similar lines of thinking. (Yes, I understand it isn’t the exact same so please don’t try to explain to me that non-fraternization policies refer to something slightly different). Your arguments gets disproven on the basis of sex as 2 other women (40% offered) are also buying the place and it effectively comes down to “a boss/owner of the company does NOT owe you anything in terms of career progression/raises unless written in a contract. Your argument of marital status also goes out the window as at least one of the managers offered was married, and more than likely, multiple were, probably even one of the women.
Even if every other person is offered a $10k raise PER MONTH and you’re not, that isn’t illegal. There’s no case here for discrimination. He made a choice in who to sell his business to. The fact that he picked one manager and not the other doesn’t mean it’s discrimination. Now, her husband absolutely should’ve brought it up, there’s clearly a difference in priorities there, but the issue isn’t a work one, it’s a relationship one, specifically a communication one. Now, if OP feels slighted enough she wants to quit, she’s more than allowed. Many would understand if that’s her position, but ultimately she isn’t owed the promotion of opportunity to buy the company. No judge will say she is entitled to it.
No
All you can do is be there for her let her cry, talk, scream at the stars if she needs too. Don’t tell her that it will get better. It never gets better just different.
I would tell the wife. He has already involved you into his life and lied to you about all of this, and lied to his wife.
I would tell her and then walk away while they sort it out.
Have you two every tried therapy?
Honestly, walking away when someone starts yelling is an excellent plan.
“We can and will have this conversation when you’ve regained your composure. I will not, however be subject to your abuse.”
Twice a month is way to often to have screaming fights. If he says “he can’t help it”, please call bullshit. If he couldn’t help it, he wouldn’t be able to hold a job and would likely be in jail. He has decided that exploding on you is perfectly fine. It’s not.
When are you going to tell him? On the way to deliver the baby?
That's not a 'trick', that's reproductive coercion, and is a crime in many areas of the world.
It is assault.
He is removing your bodily autonomy, and your right to say no. “Trick” doesn't even begin to cover it.
You need to treat this as the serious matter that it is. This was deliberate and pre-meditated. Do NOT believe a word he says, I'm sure he is very good at trying to gloss over areas where you disagree.
Get legal advice. Stat.
Reminds me when I said my daughter wouldn’t play with plastic toys or watch TV ?
No
Girl, leave his dumbass. He sounds like a manipulative narcissist with a victim complex.
Thank you so much, that’s reassuring to hear. He’s had issues with drugs in the past but nothing like this, I am glad that I’ve cut ties, I’m sure that over time things will feel easier it’s just a lot to process at the moment
No one knows more about you than you do, Op.
You aren't comfortable with sharing her and being with anyone else is repugnant to you.
I would let her go. Like forever. Even if she changes her mind you know what she wants and you will always wonder when she decides to act on her desires.
I'm glad you've realized sometimes we don't notice things until the whole situation is laid out Infront I'm glad you aren't actually mad at her people just don't understand it's easy to gloss over things when reading and not fully read into the whole thing. Despite the pitchforks I hope you have a wonderful day ❤️.
The correct answer is because whatever the fuck he wants is fine.
Then leave???
Hire a divorce lawyer yesterday.
I brought the incident up to her again, and she seemed pretty apologetic at first, but I struck a nerve when I tried to push past the incident itself and address why she was so angered by what I had said.
Am I the only one wondering what OP said? ?
For some (in retrospect wildly naive) reason I had assumed “during oral” meant while he was eating her out. I now realize that definitely isnt whats happening cause there is no way this dude is eating her pussy for 20 mins lol
It's all fine till the part where he did not respond with ” absolutely not! I'm not canceling on ( your name). Wtf is wrong with you”
That is, imho, the only valid answer.
He himself needs to teach her some boundaries. But, apart from that, I don't see anything fishy. Except her stinking entitled behaviour.
You are since you are married to her and make most of the money. I would delete your Reddit before her lawyer finds it and gives you the fucking you’ve been desperate to find
Go back to therapy ASAP. Your issues are bubbling to the surface again and you need to deal with them now instead of after messing up his or someone else's life.
He might just use the bar of soap but no cloth which is a whole lotta yuck. He may not be truly washing well enough. Get in the shower with him. Maybe you can pinpoint it.